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Old 12-17-2013, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Originally Posted by JohnnyMack View Post
A person, in this case a female, doesn't need a gun to their head to be "forced" into the marriage.

Polygamous and Incestuous relationships are NEVER on equal footing in regards to consent.

Contracts signed under duress are not binding.
If someone is being forced into marriage, then that should negate the contract, you are trying to hard to try to discredit a simple fact, consenting adults should be allowed to marry. You cannot lump same sex marriage into people being forced into marriage.

 
Old 12-17-2013, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Where are all the Conservatives who should be pissed right now, didn't Utah just violate the traditional definition of marriage ?
That's another area they seem to be forgetting ... Polygamy IS part of their "Traditional" marriage dream.

Men have multiple wives which have NO rights of property or inheritance, it all goes to their son, usually the oldest.
 
Old 12-17-2013, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Why does it seem only those AGAINST same-sex marriage think about Polygamy, Pedophilia, and Bestiality?
And why do they think same sex marriage will somehow lead to those things, straight marriage hasn't lead to them yet, shouldn't straight marriage be considered a part of that slippery slope?
 
Old 12-17-2013, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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If someone is being forced into marriage, then that should negate the contract, you are trying to hard to try to discredit a simple fact, consenting adults should be allowed to marry. You cannot lump same sex marriage into people being forced into marriage.
The comparison was Same-Sex Marriage and Polygamy, in a Polygamous relationship there is NEVER true consent as there would be in a Same-Sex marriage, I think you misunderstood my point.
 
Old 12-17-2013, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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And why do they think same sex marriage will somehow lead to those things, straight marriage hasn't lead to them yet, shouldn't straight marriage be considered a part of that slippery slope?
I think it has a bit to do with their own sexual dysfunction, if they rail against something long and hard enough those feelings(whatever they may be) would go away.
 
Old 12-17-2013, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The comparison was Same-Sex Marriage and Polygamy, in a Polygamous relationship there is NEVER true consent as there would be in a Same-Sex marriage, I think you misunderstood my point.
Okay, that makes sense, I did misunderstand your post.
 
Old 12-17-2013, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Originally Posted by sargentodiaz View Post
If homosexual marriages are legal so is polygamy a Federal Judge rules. Read decision @ http://jonathanturley.files.wordpres...t-decision.pdf

Who didn't see this coming?

Followed by this:

Polygamy advocates hail judge's ruling in Utah

- See more at: Sister Wives: Judge Rules Key Parts of Utah Anti-Polygamy Law Unconstitutional | CNS News
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Are they consenting adults? If so, then why should it matter?
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Originally Posted by momonkey View Post
Well, let's see...gee-wiz, that sure is a tough one!

How about because marriages bring non-adults into the families created by the marriage in question and the rest of society, consenting or not, has to clean up the mess left behind when liberal social engineering fails?
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I'm not sure how that doesn't define marriage in general.
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Marriage is a union between consenting adults, that is the definition I go off of.
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So a marriage between a middle-aged mother and her adult son is completely acceptable to you?
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That is messed up and the mother should probably be investigated for molestation when her son was a child, but if they are both two consenting adults that wish to be married to each other for whatever sick reason, then they should legally be able to.
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Assuming in this hypothetical situation the mother did indeed molest the child. That won't always be the case.



Agreed. I couldn't careless what the relation between two consenting adults are, if they want to get married then that ought to be allowed to. I think the three requirements I've posted numerous times is a great starting point and it leaves room to be expanded upon if necessary.
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So you think people with kids cannot get remarried after getting a divorce? We are talking about adults marrying, not children getting married.




Dense or what?


Adults getting married determines the sort of childhood a non-consenting non-adult will have.


That is why not every consenting adult can marry another consenting adult, but the court's decision at least begins the process of deconstructing the same-sex marriage lie by requiring consistency in application of the presumed reasoning behind it.


House of cards, meet Tiger!
 
Old 12-17-2013, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Dense or what?


Adults getting married determines the sort of childhood a non-consenting non-adult will have.


That is why not every consenting adult can marry another consenting adult, but the court's decision at least begins the process of deconstructing the same-sex marriage lie by requiring consistency in application of the presumed reasoning behind it.


House of cards, meet Tiger!
So does that mean, blacks and whites shouldn't marry? Or asians and blacks? Or people in their 20s with people in their 70s? Or Hugh Hefner and one of his blonde bunnies?

You are trying to make this about children when you know that straight second marriages can have problems with children from either parent being unhappy with the situation. You also assume that children being raised in a same sex marriage will somehow not turn out okay when that is just untrue. And of course, what about single parents, should they have their children taken away because they got a divorce?

Sorry, but I just knocked your poorly constructed house of cards over with logic.
 
Old 12-17-2013, 11:37 PM
 
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Oh please....you know no such thing.

40 years ago people would have thought a man marrying another man, legally, would have been about the ridiculous, unfathomable thing in the world.

So what will happen in the next decade, half-century...etc...etc, no one on this board can foretell, including yourself.
The same thing was said (and was law in some states until 1967) about interracial marriages, by people that have the same thing in common as those that rage against same sex marriage, bigotry steeped in the intolerance of religion
 
Old 12-17-2013, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Dense or what?


Adults getting married determines the sort of childhood a non-consenting non-adult will have.


That is why not every consenting adult can marry another consenting adult, but the court's decision at least begins the process of deconstructing the same-sex marriage lie by requiring consistency in application of the presumed reasoning behind it.


House of cards, meet Tiger!
Sorry "tiger". You're as threatening as origami, now sit.

Why can't one consenting adult marry another? Marriage is NOT about children. Never was, never will be. Marriage is a bond that two (or more) people who want to spend the rest of their lives with each other go through in order to make it official and to secure their relationship with one another.

Having sex for the purpose of having children is about children. Not marriage. Sorry "tiger'. Try again.
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