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Strange.. From what I gather taxes were generally higher in the 1980's compared to now.. Yet right wingers claim the 1980's were greatness and now is awful... Hmmm I'm confused
You don't remember run-away inflation and 18% home interest rates from the 80's do you ??
If minimum wage was $100 an hour, they wouldnt be able to afford to eat lobster and caviar.. They'd be no better than they are today because rent would climb from $400 a month to $4000 a month, along with the cost of everythign else
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Okay, I agree with you that we should increase minimum wage to just $15/hr then.
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Okay, I agree with you that we should increase minimum wage to just $15/hr then.
And what makes you think the price of things wont rise if we "only" raise it to $15 an hour vs $100? Where do you think the money will come from to pay these added costs
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Originally Posted by jojajn
WTH? I support employers paying a fair wage. That is what this thread is about, remember?
I dont recall anyone opposing employees being paid a fair wage, the question is WHY would they pay such a wage if they can avoid doing so? This is what you seem to not comprehend.. Government not only allows it, but they encourage lower salaries for many americnas.
And what makes you think the price of things wont rise if we "only" raise it to $15 an hour vs $100? Where do you think the money will come from to pay these added costs
I dont recall anyone opposing employees being paid a fair wage, the question is WHY would they pay such a wage if they can avoid doing so? This is what you seem to not comprehend.. Government not only allows it, but they encourage lower salaries for many americnas.
"This is the question the right has to answer. Do you want smaller government with less handouts, or do you want a low minimum wage? Because you cannot have both. If Colonel Sanders isn't going to pay the lady behind the counter enough to live on, then Uncle Sam has to, and I for one am getting a little tired of helping highly profitable companies pay their workers.: ~ Bill Maher
So what you're saying is increasing the minimum wage, has caused more government handouts..
/thread failure
Notice the lack of other options like ending free trade with third world nations, restoring the buying power of the US dollar, ending the war on coal and domestic petroleum production, reducing ridiculous government regulation and red tape, ending the NEA's monopoly on public education, ending the war on fathers and the traditional family, etc.
The artificially low demand for workers that suppresses wages is due to excessive government regulation, relatively high marginal corporate tax rates, lax immigration enforcement, cheap money, bad schools, broken families and a society that is morally adrift.
One generation of uneducated single mothers raising the next generation of uneducated welfare recipients with no father in the house is a creation of the left that keeps our welfare offices busy and our prisons full.
Capitalism requires achievement to be rewarded and failure punished, and yet rewarding failure and punishing success is the policy of the left.
Devaluation of the dollar is a Keynesian brain fart embraced by the left that forces US workers to work more and earn less.
We mocked Saudi nomads for riding their camels over oil fields having no clue that so much wealth was there for the taking, and today we drive our SUVs over our own energy supplies we know exist and refuse to develop them.
Notice the lack of other options like ending free trade with third world nations, restoring the buying power of the US dollar, ending the war on coal and domestic petroleum production, reducing ridiculous government regulation and red tape, ending the NEA's monopoly on public education, ending the war on fathers and the traditional family, etc.
The artificially low demand for workers that suppresses wages is due to excessive government regulation, relatively high marginal corporate tax rates, lax immigration enforcement, cheap money, bad schools, broken families and a society that is morally adrift.
One generation of uneducated single mothers raising the next generation of uneducated welfare recipients with no father in the house is a creation of the left that keeps our welfare offices busy and our prisons full.
Capitalism requires achievement to be rewarded and failure punished, and yet rewarding failure and punishing success is the policy of the left.
Devaluation of the dollar is a Keynesian brain fart embraced by the left that forces US workers to work more and earn less.
We mocked Saudi nomads for riding their camels over oil fields having no clue that so much wealth was there for the taking, and today we drive our SUVs over our own energy supplies we know exist and refuse to develop them.
Yes, of course a living wage depends upon location.
Why do you assume that a high school dropout necessarily lacks "skills?" You would have to get specific about the industry or sector, and the specific position to judge what "skills" are required and who possesses such skills.
This nation is littered with people making six figures who lack any discernible "skills."
And if he does just like the rest he will eventually get there.
The time to think about minimum wages is when you're jerking around in high school. Remember "Scared Straight" when they took those kids to prisons and let the convicts scare the bleep out of them? Maybe it's time to take the preteen slackers on a field trip to minimum wageville and let the older workers tell the kids how they screwed up in school and with whom they hung around and wound up where they are now in life.
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WTH? I support employers paying a fair wage. That is what this thread is about, remember?
Spot on!
