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Old 01-10-2014, 01:58 PM
 
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I guess the same way any degreed scientist accepts "evolution" as fact. Personally, I think evolution theory is the most ridiculous belief system one can have.
What is your explanation for how life changes?

 
Old 01-10-2014, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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And what is "evolution theory?"

By the way, ID is not religion. ID is scientific discovery/research conducted from a creation perspective.
Yeah right....With no scientists involved....The scientific community considers intelligent design a pseudoscience because it lacks empirical support and offers no tenable hypotheses.
 
Old 01-10-2014, 02:00 PM
 
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Yeah right....With no scientists involved....The scientific community considers intelligent design a pseudoscience because it lacks empirical support and offers no tenable hypotheses.
The scientific community does not consider it pseudoscience. They consider it was it is - Christian Creationism.
 
Old 01-10-2014, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Where it's cold in winter.
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Yeah right....With no scientists involved....The scientific community considers intelligent design a pseudoscience because it lacks empirical support and offers no tenable hypotheses.
"With no scientists involved?" They are credentialed scientists.

Oh, by the way, I just listened to a YouTube video of this "science guy" pontificating on the importance of accepting evolution theory. Does this man realize how ridiculous he sounds? What a fool!
 
Old 01-10-2014, 02:03 PM
 
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But FlamencoFreak says it cannot be proven!
Since it has not been disproven one can't argue it can not be proven.

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The scientific illiteracy is stunning and sad. Math has proofs. The natural sciences use evidence to support theories; theories aren't just suggestions waiting on some ultimate proof or disproof. A theory isn't begun on the basis of faith, neither is it maintained on the basis of faith. Without evidence, a hypothesis does not become a theory. And theories are left by the wayside, or modified, when evidence to the contrary enters the picture and alternate hypotheses lead to new or modified theories. Faith has nothing to do with it. Faith is belief without evidence, or in spite of evidence to the contrary.
It's wrong to IMO argue that science is devoid of faith. Science won't allow faith over rule facts. Science searches for life on other planets because they have faith it could be there. We have absolutely no proof of it anywhere else but the search will continue because of the faith of scientists that they will find it.
 
Old 01-10-2014, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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"With no scientists involved?" They are credentialed scientists.

Oh, by the way, I just listened to a YouTube video of this "science guy" pontificating on the importance of accepting evolution theory. Does this man realize how ridiculous he sounds? What a fool!
Oh my, the irony in this post is overflowing.
 
Old 01-10-2014, 02:10 PM
 
Location: texas
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And what is "evolution theory?"

By the way, ID is not religion. ID is scientific discovery/research conducted from a creation perspective. That is all.

Evolution theory, like ID, is science conducted from a different point of view, that takes "evolution" on faith. What's the difference? Evolution science is faith based too, in other words. So, is it religion and not science?
The difference between the theroy of evolution and the theory of creation is that creationist have already made their conclusion. The debate and discussion is over on creation.

The theory of evolution is still being debated, studies and discussed. There is no big book of evolution. There are countless numbers of investigators and scientists all around the world testing and seeking answers. No one claims evolution is fixed and solved...except creationists.
 
Old 01-10-2014, 02:12 PM
 
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It's wrong to IMO argue that science is devoid of faith. Science won't allow faith over rule facts. Science searches for life on other planets because they have faith it could be there. We have absolutely no proof of it anywhere else but the search will continue because of the faith of scientists that they will find it.
You're confusing faith with curiosity.
 
Old 01-10-2014, 02:12 PM
 
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The difference between the theroy of evolution and the theory of creation is that creationist have already made their conclusion. The debate and discussion is over on creation.

The theory of evolution is still being debated, studies and discussed. There is no big book of evolution. There are countless numbers of investigators and scientists all around the world testing and seeking answers. No one claims evolution is fixed and solved...except creationists.
Seems we have those here arguing just that.
 
Old 01-10-2014, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Creation science is every bit as much a science as evolution science (which is also faith based). Why do you reject it as invalid? What makes you think you know all?
ROTFLMAO!!
This whole thread is absolutely hilarious!
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