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I disagree with your husband. I am a Black male and I had to struggle to get the job that I have. The environment I currently work in, it's predominantly White males, many of them of the conservative slant. I disagree with your husband because of what I've experienced and dealt with. If a Black person is so likely to get the job, then out of everyone in my cohort, why was it that me and another Black person had to wait the longest to get jobs after graduating from college? Why is it that even with a connection I had, I didn't get the job? By the way, the other Black person in my cohort, he currently works in sales and never got a job in his field. I have a job in my field, but it was an uphill battle. I watched other people who graduated with me get the jobs they wanted, while I had to work twice has hard. Why is that?
Are you saying this was true for you X years ago, or you're still seeing it today?
yeah, things have really changed, people fear laughing at themselves...it's all about, "omg, you insulted me"....so what? If your that thin skinned your never going to make it in the world....
Gosh, people used to call me a ****, or Indian, and I didn't care, I laughed right along with them....we all did....I'm a boomer, and graduated in 67, sure was a different world, we had fun, we laughed, and when someone older made a suggestion, we didn't get all insulted and call them names...we listened, we learned....
Yeah, there was also that level of affection/kidding between people of different nationalities who were both white and both of the same religion.
Another two of my neighbors were a year behind me in school. Both were Catholic, and one was an American who was of half Italian descent and half Irish descent. The other guy, his mother was British (born and raised) and his dad was from Germany (born and raised). His little sister was born in the U.S., but I honestly don’t remember if he was….and I don’t think anyone asked. The father had a high ranking position with an oil company, and had been transferred and promoted from Europe (before we were out of Elementary school, the father got promoted again…this time to where I happen to live now…Houston Texas metro). Sometimes when the British/German parented kid would say something…..to needle him re what he said, the Italian/Irish descent guy would say “You’re such a Kraut” or “You’re being such a Kraut”, and laughter ensued.
This is why blacks will always be lower class citizens in the US.
They refuse to assimilate to western culture and value education, then scream "racism" when they are unable to achieve anything in society!
By laebling everything that could potentially normalize and help assimilate blacks as "racist", they are sealing their own fate.
Given the ever increasing accusations of "racism" and demands for outrageous, superlative citizen status, it may be time to just give black America 4-5 states of their own and let them devolve into a third world, African nation.
Yes, this is true on a large scale for blacks. Although African immigrants (particularly Nigerian immigrants) have quietly assimilated well and have been highly successful as a whole when they come to this country.
This is why blacks will always be lower class citizens in the US.
They refuse to assimilate to western culture and value education, then scream "racism" when they are unable to achieve anything in society!
By laebling everything that could potentially normalize and help assimilate blacks as "racist", they are sealing their own fate.
Given the ever increasing accusations of "racism" and demands for outrageous, superlative citizen status, it may be time to just give black America 4-5 states of their own and let them devolve into a third world, African nation.
I'm black and this is 100% true.
Assimilation and education will always be the key to prosperity. Asian Americans, African immigrants, and Jewish Americans have shown that people of color or minority demographics can prosper in America. Not to mention a black president we had for 8 years.
If the recruiter, program manager, CEO, and president are speaking Ebonics, then you can speak Ebonics too. But they're speaking English so you better speak English if you want the job. Or you can start your own business.
Even the most woke lefties will never approve of reparations, so the only solution is assimilation and education.
This is why blacks will always be lower class citizens in the US.
They refuse to assimilate to western culture and value education, then scream "racism" when they are unable to achieve anything in society!
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I'm black and this is 100% true.
Rocko20, t can't be 100% true if you're black and it doesn't include you. And you know it doesn't include millions of other ADOS people. Those are the "hidden figures" that get ignored in the rhetoric.
You even ignore yourself in your own rhetoric.
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Assimilation and education will always be the key to prosperity. Asian Americans, African immigrants, and Jewish Americans have shown that people of color or minority demographics can prosper in America. Not to mention a black president we had for 8 years.
If the recruiter, program manager, CEO, and president are speaking Ebonics, then you can speak Ebonics too. But they're speaking English so you better speak English if you want the job. Or you can start your own business.
Even the most woke lefties will never approve of reparations, so the only solution is assimilation and education.
I agree, but in the thread discussing how this situation with ADOS developed, you disagreed that the situation existed.
If a white man from the country was in that professors class and said "Well hep dang that gravity aint pulling that moon to the sun, heck dang glad teach that moon got me seein dem critters at night."
If that professor would also correct a white student for using non-proper English (then perhaps he is not racist.)
But I strongly believe someones vocal dialect should only be corrected in a (English) class.
Should basic computational errors only be corrected in math class too? Or should a college professor have some reasonable expectation that his students be able to count past 10 without removing their shoes?
Just so you don’t continue misunderstanding the context of the situation … this isn’t about vocalizing. It’s about proper grammar usage when writing college papers. I don’t consider that to be an unreasonable expectation. What’s unreasonable is that a collage professor would actually have to do it.
Once upon a time, this alleged new form of racism wouldn’t have been possible, because college students had already mastered basic writing skills, which necessarily included proper grammar, spelling and punctuation. These skills were learned before reaching high school.
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