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Old 01-28-2014, 12:18 PM
 
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Typical of a Clinton. She wants to have it both ways.

If she truly regrets it, not just the fact that it makes her look bad, why did she proclaim "What difference does it make"?

She did not appear to regret it when she made that statement, or even regret it until it became an inconvenience to her.
This!!!
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Old 01-28-2014, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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No, she wasn't. She was saying people are dead so we should focus on figuring out what happened and how to prevent it.
What part of that do you disagree with?
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Old 01-28-2014, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, AZ
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Her opponents will make all sorts of adds. Some will be more honest than others.

None are likely to ultimately beat her.
How do you figure?
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Old 01-28-2014, 01:31 PM
 
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What part of that do you disagree with?
I don't disagree with that. What I disagree with is her question of what difference does it make. If, as she said, we want to determine what happened an how to prevent it, then starting with what actually happened makes a significant difference.
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Old 01-28-2014, 01:33 PM
 
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Her opponents will make all sorts of adds. Some will be more honest than others.
True - as will she.

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None are likely to ultimately beat her.
I'm not sure why you would say that; she was the frontrunner and assumed candidate before Mr. Obama came up and beat her.
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Old 01-28-2014, 01:55 PM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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How come you guys never use the whole quote? Are you afraid to admit that it doesn't mean what you want it to mean?

"With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator."

It's a pretty weak (and disingenuous) tactic to rely on quote mining to isolate one part of her statement in order to use it completely out of context, especially when the statements before and after it frame the context quite clearly.

Now, if you had a legitimate point to make, why would you have to rely on dishonest quote mining to make it?

And what part of "It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again" do you disagree with, anyways?
Rep coming your way. They use that quote a thousand times a day on this forum, as if the rest of us don't know the whole thing.

Then again, that's how they always do things, not just with Hillary.
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Old 01-28-2014, 02:13 PM
 
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I honestly think it is funny how right wingers keep bringing this topic up and trying to paint Hilary with a bad brush with it. They way they word things you would of thought that is was Hilary herself who picked up a gun and went on a murderous rampage in Libya.

The Americans killed in Benghazi were killed by savage Muslim Radicals. How exactly is this Hilary's fault? What could she have done to change things?
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Old 01-28-2014, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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I honestly think it is funny how right wingers keep bringing this topic up and trying to paint Hilary with a bad brush with it. They way they word things you would of thought that is was Hilary herself who picked up a gun and went on a murderous rampage in Libya.

The Americans killed in Benghazi were killed by savage Muslim Radicals. How exactly is this Hilary's fault? What could she have done to change things?

Hillary is IN CHARGE of the State Dept. Ambassador Stevens for MONTHS pleaded for increased security. She IGNORED the requests because it would look bad politically to have to increase security after Barack and his regime were claiming that "Al Queda was on the run". She gambled and lost.
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Old 01-28-2014, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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How come you guys never use the whole quote? Are you afraid to admit that it doesn't mean what you want it to mean?

"With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator."

It's a pretty weak (and disingenuous) tactic to rely on quote mining to isolate one part of her statement in order to use it completely out of context, especially when the statements before and after it frame the context quite clearly.

Now, if you had a legitimate point to make, why would you have to rely on dishonest quote mining to make it?

And what part of "It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again" do you disagree with, anyways?


It gets taken out of context because she made it glaringly obvious that it's the only part she actually meant.


And notice how she never says she regrets blaming it on a video.
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Old 01-28-2014, 04:00 PM
 
Location: CO
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It gets taken out of context because she made it glaringly obvious that it's the only part she actually meant.
Fail.
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