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Old 02-06-2014, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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You do realize that comparing the Tooth Fairy to God is being condescending, right? Every time these debates happen, people compare religion to Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny or Fairy Tales...





essentially saying people who believe in God are either as simple-minded as children or flat-out idiots. This position instantly invalidates anything else that person is going to say because they don't want to have a serious discussion, but rather just want to sling insults and bask in their perceived intellectual superiority, much like the army of 14-year-old Atheists on Reddit who think they're better, smarter or more advanced than everyone else.
If the shoe fits.....

God is comparable to Santa Claus. Both are watching you all the time, knowing if you've been bad or good, and both will reward or suitably punish you in the end.
It's the exact same story.

 
Old 02-06-2014, 11:31 AM
 
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And Obama admitted his spiritual mentor of over 20 years was what we now know is a racist minister. So, according to your logic, that makes Obama racist, as well.
What in the ever-lovin' are you on about?
 
Old 02-06-2014, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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I've already stated it. Quite a few people in this thread are conflating Creationism with ID. They're not the same thing. They're different. Even Ham states such.

Like that's worth something. Blogs and tabloids are scientific publications, too. Denialists state such.

You're aware that the publishers of your creationist textbooks were found directly replacing "creationism" with "intelligent design", yes?
 
Old 02-06-2014, 11:38 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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What in the ever-lovin' are you on about?
If you're really going to claim ID is Creationism, you'd also have to concede that Obama is a racist. It's the same mentality.
 
Old 02-06-2014, 11:41 AM
 
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If you're really going to claim ID is Creationism, you'd also have to concede that Obama is a racist. It's the same mentality.
lol

Orwellian.

ID is creationist bulls**t and everyone knows it, regardless of whether YOU are willing to admit it or not. We don't need your confession, lol.
 
Old 02-06-2014, 11:42 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You're aware that the publishers of your creationist textbooks were found directly replacing "creationism" with "intelligent design", yes?
And I said that was poorly done in that case.

ID doesn't assert that the universe and all living things were created. Nor does it name any particular designer. Both of those facts are why even Ham himself (thread topic) states ID is not Creationism.
 
Old 02-06-2014, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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And I said that was poorly done in that case.
Yes, it was poorly done. If it had been done well, it may have escaped notice. Doesn't change the fact that the authors of your creationist textbooks are BS artists, though.

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ID doesn't assert that the universe and all living things were created. Nor does it name any particular designer. Both of those facts are why even Ham himself (thread topic) states ID is not Creationism.
Your argument isn't convincing. Poorly edited textbooks in which creationists try to pretend they aren't creationists is.
 
Old 02-06-2014, 11:47 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Your argument isn't convincing. Poorly edited textbooks in which creationists try to pretend they aren't creationists is.
I see you're another proponent of the Obama is a racist crowd.
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And Obama admitted his spiritual mentor of over 20 years was what we now know is a racist minister. So, according to your logic, that makes Obama racist, as well.
 
Old 02-06-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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I see you're another proponent of the Obama is a racist crowd.
I didn't say anything about your president or his race. What you see ain't what's there.
 
Old 02-06-2014, 12:06 PM
 
Location: texas
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If Intelligent design has no relation to creationism, why is always injected into argued along side creation v TOE debates.

If is not analogous...dont keep injecting ID into the debate. Keep it out of the discussion.
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