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Old 02-17-2014, 08:01 PM
 
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A little early to write the final the analysis of Obama. Truman has improved a lot over the years and so has Ike.

Yet, there is a fact that Obama has proven to be highly disingenuous and Hope and Change was a gimmick that he didn't intend to fulfill.

St. Pete for Peace - Obama fact sheet

Obama supporters will go hysterical over this well sourced list of 557 examples of his lying, lawbreaking, corruption, cronyism, etc. | Dan from Squirrel Hill's Blog
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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He has done a stellar job given the disaster he inherited (from the worst president in history), and the obstructionism he has faced from the Republicans in Congress, who all but admitted to stalling the economic recovery in an effort to limit Obama to one term as president.
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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The Pubs pretty much succeeded in shutting down his hope and change. History will show he was too weak, too willing to seek consensus over destroying his opposition particularly in the beginning. By the time he learned to stand his ground, it was too late to accomplish anything. [MOD CUT/off topic]
That's called separation of powers.
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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True, but seeing is believing. It really doesn't matter what went on behind the scenes to get a feel for what Americans see and experienced during the Obama tenure. Kind of like the gas shortage of the Carter years..... do you really need to see internal documents to know you waited in long lines for rationed fuel?
Presidents are judged years or decades after they leave office, not while they are still serving. You might have had a different opinion of JFK or Reagan when they were still in office. Why is this important to you now since you already had your mind made up, just found something on the internet to confirm you belief.

Great research!
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:06 PM
 
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We're 6 million jobs short of where would would have been absent the mild recession that started in 2007.

We're about 11 million people short in the labor force to fund OASDI.

The OADI Trust Fund will be exhausted by 2017 which will probably just become the OASDI Trust Fund.

In 2024 the Medicare HI Trust Fund will be exhausted.

In 2024 public debt will be about 108% of GDP. Revenues going to the Federal Government will be at a 60 year high. At the same time money spent on everything other than the Federal Government's healthcare system will be at a 60 year low. To keep public debt where it is now as a percentage of GDP will require $2 trillion in cuts/taxes over the next ten years. To get public debt to 35% of GDP, its 40 year historic average, we will need to cut/increase taxes $4 trillion over the next ten years.

In 2024 UE rate will still be about 5.5% (and only because of so many are giving up or retiring) according to the CBO.

By 2030 there will be about another 1.3 billion people on the planet, most of which will for the first time be in the middle class or approaching it, which will increase the cost of food, energy and water 30 - 50%.

In 2033 the OASDI Trust Fund will be exhausted which will cause about a 27% reduction in payments to those on SS.

He didn't address any of that. Instead he pushed for a payroll tax decrease causing more problems than it helped. He also has his name all over another welfare program when, as you can see, we haven't paid for the numerous ones already promised before he took office.

In 30 years the only thing that he will be remembered is how he squandered money to buy votes to try and gain a permanent majority only to ultimately increase the speed at which all of it got taken away because of forced austerity.

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Old 02-17-2014, 08:07 PM
 
Location: southern california
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im not worried about what the president is like. im worried about the debt, about loss of civil liberties and freedom. im worried about a government that sees we the people as the enemy and not the terrorists and criminals they have sworn to arrest. im worried about a government that wishes to disarm its people.
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:07 PM
 
Location: CO
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Apparently all those quoted are fine when they support your argument.
Normally, thinkers at these schools get laughed at around here: Harvard, Rice, Yale, Princeton, Dartmouth, etc.
I'll take this to mean these are now credible schools again.
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Obama's legislative record is pretty impressive. Remember Dodd-Frank. How about his actions on gays - not legislative but history making. Obamacare alone will change the way we receive medical care for generations to come. It's probably even more significant than Social Security and Medicare because it affects everyone, now.
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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He isn't done with his second term in office. A little premature, no?
Did you not watch his State of The Union speech? There was no "there" there, just rehashed crap from every other SOTU speech. He had nothing new to offer, no new ideas, no changes in direction, he's just going to stay the course with his failed policies and double down on whatever hasn't worked for the last five years.

In the next three years, we'll see more of 0bama using his powers as president to keep rewarding his friends, punishing his enemies, and a continuation of him looting our treasury for his political and corporate cronies.
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:09 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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"Barack Obama knows he’s a man running out of time. Reflecting on his presidential legacy in a long interview with the New Yorker’s David Remnick, Obama said, “at the end of the day we’re part of a long-running story. We just try to get our paragraph right.” For Presidents' Day, Politico Magazine asked a panel of distinguished historians to take up the obvious question this raises: How will Obama’s paragraph read? Did he get it right? What will be his place in history? Here’s what they told us, with some smart framing thoughts from Stephen Sestanovich, a scholar at the Council on Foreign Relations and Columbia University:"

Barack Obama?s Paragraph - Politico Magazine - POLITICO Magazine

Sorry libs.....Barack Obama just wasn't Mr. Hope and Change after all. Even the far left historians from the nation's elite universities won't give him much more than a mediocre ranking after 6 years........which is astonishing considering what they expected he would be able to accomplish being a well-spoken man of high ambition and even higher rhetoric.

It just didn't work out as planned. A lost opportunity for the first black President, indeed.
What does him being black have to do with it, and further more, doesnt this prove he isnt the radical you have claimed ?
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