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Old 03-09-2014, 01:36 PM
 
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This is from the Moscow Times. It isn't discussing leaving the US out as the Reuters articles implies. It however, focuses topically on aid and not on the details of the 2010 IMF Reforms. Just the brief mention of greater say for emerging markets. (i.e. BRICs)
U.S. Approval of IMF Reform Could Accelerate Ukraine Aid ...
quote:
"The fund's central role in supporting economic reforms and catalyzing financial assistance for Ukraine underscores again why the IMF is critical for our national security interests," a U.S. Treasury official said Tuesday.
....
Congress must sign off on the IMF funding to complete the 2010 reforms, which give emerging markets a greater say in the organization.
The reform of the IMF's voting shares, known as quotas, cannot proceed without the U.S., which holds the only controlling share of IMF votes.
The quotas determine how much each country contributes to the IMF and how much it may borrow.

Last edited by CDusr; 03-09-2014 at 01:52 PM.. Reason: typo

 
Old 03-09-2014, 02:01 PM
 
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The US/EU got what they wanted...Ukraine beholden to the IMF.
The US offered $1 billion in loan guarantees and the EU/IMF offered $15 billion.

Crimea just voted to go with Russia.

Remember this all started because the Ukraine turned their back on the EU/IMF.
Yes, and it seems this crisis is being used to hurry up the IMF 2010 reforms. These will be major global changes for the entire planet. In 2008, they were able to hurry up, as well. Crisis can always be put to good use. Has been useful for the Basel Accords, as well.
 
Old 03-09-2014, 02:17 PM
 
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Default US knew Putin was going to invade Crimea a week before it happened

Did the U.S. see the Crimea crisis coming? - CNN.com Video

General Flynn says that we had intelligence that Putin was going to invade Crimea 7 to 10 days before he did it. We had sources indicating it would happen and were monitoring troop movements.

Interesting.

Should we have been more pro-active with that intelligence? What could we have done differently - if anything?

Kerry was making assurances that Russia would not invade until it was happening, despite intelligence that it was planned...was that part of a strategy to show faith in Putin's words OR was there just bad communication?
 
Old 03-10-2014, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Wake up call to the U.S. and Europe - don't get drawn in to this too deep and let it get out of control...

Ukranian MP: We May Need Nuclear Weapons - Latest News Briefs - Israel National News - Ukrainian politician advocates acquisition of nuclear weapons if U.S. and Europe don't take military action against Russia.

The unelected people who have seized power in Ukraine would love for nothing more than this to escalate to a military conflict. Obama and other politicians need to be very careful with what they do and what they say so as not to embolden Ukrainian radicals to start a war. All of the swagger and threats is walking a fine line. Crimea (and possibly parts of Eastern Ukraine maybe all the way to the Dnieper) is going to be part of Russia; Putin is not going to back down. It is not worth starting a major war to contest this.
 
Old 03-10-2014, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Allendale MI
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Seems like this thread has turned into a history lesson.

After talking to various respected sources this weekend, there is a consensus among our discussion group. The rational is as follows. You can believe it or not as I didn't post this to start a fight. Just to share the conclusions some, Including myself, have come to, concerning the Ukraine issue.

Putin became totally disgusted at the way President Viktor Yanukovych handled the protests in Kiev and managed to lose the country after Putin had personally guaranteed to bail out Ukraine once again. There are reports that Putin privately called Yanukovych "spineless" and "not fit to lead".
Putin has used this opportunity to proceed with the end game he has had all along, as the timing is perfect and the spark of revolution has ignited on both sides.
Crimea by itself is not enough for Russia, as it will be cut off from Russia by land if Russia annexes it. So, the Russian strategy is to strengthen Crimea with troops, drive out the Ukraine forces and then wait for a counter by Ukraine forces. As soon as Ukraine responds, Putin will use those 150,000 Russian troops on 'exercise' to sweep into Eastern Ukraine all the way to Dnieper River. Putin will hold fast at the river and Ukraine will be divided into East and West at the Dnieper. this will allow Russia to have a clear land bridge to Crimea, which is considered strategically vital to Russia's influence in the Mediterranean and the middle East.
Since the entire Ukraine is bankrupt, Russia will bail out and prop up East Ukraine and Crimea while the EU and the west will bail out West Ukraine. Everybody walks away happy after all is said and done.
To those who hate President Obama, save your anger for another issue. We have no dog in this fight except "Mas Macho" and we have no leverage to speak of to prevent this from happening. No president, including Bush, Reagan or Clinton would have any muscle to speak of in this case. Ukraine is a Russian problem with a Russian solution.
In the end, Putin will be seceding Western Ukraine to the EU.
Russia or Ukraine would not have good out comes.
 
Old 03-11-2014, 10:09 AM
 
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Did the U.S. see the Crimea crisis coming? - CNN.com Video

General Flynn says that we had intelligence that Putin was going to invade Crimea 7 to 10 days before he did it. We had sources indicating it would happen and were monitoring troop movements.

Interesting.

Should we have been more pro-active with that intelligence? What could we have done differently - if anything?

Kerry was making assurances that Russia would not invade until it was happening, despite intelligence that it was planned...was that part of a strategy to show faith in Putin's words OR was there just bad communication?
I think we should stop deluding ourselves into believing that the United States has the responsibility, let alone the power, to stop a major nuclear superpower from taking forcible control of a regime in its own hemisphere. After all, it's not like we don't occasionally do the same in our half of the globe. I like how the U.S. criticizes Russia for meddling with Crimea while it's okay for us to manipulate more than half the governments in Latin America.

More than that, the situation in Crimea is a little more complex than what we've been hearing/reading in the American press, which really does a p*ss poor job of reporting. Most of the people covering the Ukranian/Crimean crisis really don't understand the historical and political dynamics at play. I don't pretend to be an expert either, but at least I don't pretend to know things that I don't and fart out uninformed opinions. Most of the key diplomats we hire at the State Dept. these days know almost nothing about the countries they're supposed to establish relations with. They're appointed because they're fundraisers who survive the nominations process, not because they actually understand these countries.
 
Old 03-11-2014, 10:10 AM
 
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Wake up call to the U.S. and Europe - don't get drawn in to this too deep and let it get out of control...

Ukranian MP: We May Need Nuclear Weapons - Latest News Briefs - Israel National News - Ukrainian politician advocates acquisition of nuclear weapons if U.S. and Europe don't take military action against Russia.

The unelected people who have seized power in Ukraine would love for nothing more than this to escalate to a military conflict. Obama and other politicians need to be very careful with what they do and what they say so as not to embolden Ukrainian radicals to start a war. All of the swagger and threats is walking a fine line. Crimea (and possibly parts of Eastern Ukraine maybe all the way to the Dnieper) is going to be part of Russia; Putin is not going to back down. It is not worth starting a major war to contest this.
Crimea probably never should have been a part of "Ukraine" to begin with.
 
Old 03-11-2014, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Originally Posted by Clint. View Post
Wake up call to the U.S. and Europe - don't get drawn in to this too deep and let it get out of control...

Ukranian MP: We May Need Nuclear Weapons - Latest News Briefs - Israel National News - Ukrainian politician advocates acquisition of nuclear weapons if U.S. and Europe don't take military action against Russia.

The unelected people who have seized power in Ukraine would love for nothing more than this to escalate to a military conflict. Obama and other politicians need to be very careful with what they do and what they say so as not to embolden Ukrainian radicals to start a war. All of the swagger and threats is walking a fine line. Crimea (and possibly parts of Eastern Ukraine maybe all the way to the Dnieper) is going to be part of Russia; Putin is not going to back down. It is not worth starting a major war to contest this.
I saw that as well. They want some other country to come in and fight for them.
The news seems more propaganda than news coming from there with Russia ready to bomb them any minute.

This coup was planned and staged by outside forces/money.
 
Old 03-11-2014, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Looks the the Black Sea Fleet got a little bigger!
Crimea forms its own fleet as Ukraine Navy chief sides with region ? RT News
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