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They do. Not all of them. Not all at once. And they are not continually violated. But without government protecting people's rights, other people, cruel and callous people, will have a field day violating the rights of the most vulnerable in our society. Even if you cannot bring yourself to admit it.
I'm going to ignore your attempt to claim that the last six messages were a bit of semantic triviality.
No one has said anything about taking from others. We've been talking about civic responsibility we all have to society. Even if you cannot bring yourself to admit that either. Trying to draw a comparison between your shoplifting son and society doing what it is supposed to do to best satisfy its obligations to its members is the ultimate in self-deception.
According to you, the more government we have, the more rights we have to find a job..
Well then why do we have so many unemployed in this country, since government is bigger than ever?
It's not your back yard, it's mine. My corn, too. Without your government to address grievances ("hey kid, get off my lawn!"), what are you gonna do about it?
Thats moving the goalpost.. The discussion was government granting rights to plant food, not how to protect it once its grown.
Tell me, why dont we see massive military armys camped out in the farmlands of america? According to you, people will just take what doesnt belong to them..
There are some on this thread who need to use a dictionary. Using big words does not work unless you use them correctly. When you use them incorrectly, you appear ignorant; and I am sure everyone on here is very smart. Also, no one will will this argument because we are all sure of our own beliefs.
Using $10 words to convey two dollar thoughts does not make their opinion worth twelve bucks.
Repeating your lie doesn't make it any less of lie. Provide a link to the precise message where I said "the more government we have, the more rights we have to find a job" - "exactly".
And you presume to talk about "asinine". You're not even respecting the meanings of words, much less being accurate in your characterizations of what others have said.
Companies aren't charities. Nor are they entitled to provide you or anyone else a job for the sake of doing so. Businesses exist solely to make a profit, and that is it. If they find a need to hire someone as demand increases, they will do so.
You're absolutely correct, but rich conservatives take a completely different stance when approaching the government for help/money and the public for support. They say "We're the power brokers and the economy revolves around us."
I'm just saying, if you want to demand that liberals give their money away to help the poor as their rhetoric suggests, you should also be demanding that rich conservatives fulfill their own claims regarding their role in the economy.
You're absolutely correct, but rich conservatives take a completely different stance when approaching the government for help/money and the public for support. They say "We're the power brokers and the economy revolves around us."
I'm just saying, if you want to demand that liberals give their money away to help the poor as their rhetoric suggests, you should also be demanding that rich conservatives fulfill their own claims regarding their role in the economy.
[quote=pghquest;34065442]Thats moving the goalpost.. The discussion was government granting rights to plant food, not how to protect it once its grown.
No, the discussion was that natural rights don't exist. You mentioned food. What makes you think it's your yard, or your corn? Do you have a piece of paper that says so? Why should that mean anything to me?
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Tell me, why dont we see massive military armys camped out in the farmlands of america? According to you, people will just take what doesnt belong to them..
No, because it's private property. As defined by your government. Without that, what makes it private? Your say-so?
Repeating your lie doesn't make it any less of lie. Provide a link to the precise message where I said "the more government we have, the more rights we have to find a job" - "exactly".
And you presume to talk about "asinine". You're not even respecting the meanings of words, much less being accurate in your characterizations of what others have said.
As soon as you tell me what rights I have granted to me by government..
Protecting my rights from others encroaching upon them, isnt the same as granting me rights..
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