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Old 04-01-2014, 04:23 PM
 
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I'm, not a conservative. You can hang your hat on whatever you want, but I don't care what drugs you do, what you do in the bedroom, who you want to marry, what you want to drive, how you want to live your life. I voted for Clinton and Kerry. I just recognize BS when I see it. I don't eat from the vine like those of you on the right or left. I believe in being free from your thoughts so long as you're free from mine. Bugger off as it were.
Huh? Your post is completely irrelevant.
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Old 04-01-2014, 04:26 PM
 
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What facts are you basing your prediction on?
Why do you think the employer mandate was delayed?
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Old 04-01-2014, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Yawn.

It takes up to 6 weeks before the first bill arrives, so there's that.
I received a welcome email from the insurer the day after I signed up with a payment link. I elected to wait until I received documentation via snail mail 4 days later and then paid online.
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Old 04-01-2014, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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These are the same people who Democrats say have a hard time getting a voter ID?
Just want to point out that they were using the same argument even in the states where a voter ID is or would be free. It's not about the cost of the ID, apparently, it's about how hard it is to get. I guess it's too tough to get to the DMV (even though you have to for a multitude of other things), but getting to work every day so you can throw money at an insurance company is easy-peasy!
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Old 04-01-2014, 04:29 PM
 
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It takes up to 6 weeks before the first bill arrives, so there's that. The states that do keep track of this (like Vermont and California) report that 85-90% of enrollees have paid on time. Califonia alone has well over a million signups, so do the math. 860k for the whole nation sounds like right-wing wishful thinking.

States that keep track of people who are newly insured report much higher numbers than 23%. Kentucky reports 75% of their signups are for previously uninsured and 60% for NY.
So if all of the 23% of the newly insured pay then we will have 1,720,000 newly insured. I'm not going to cheer for that either. Remember that not everyone who lost their plan signed up for a new one so we'd also have to find that number to see the actual gains.
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Old 04-01-2014, 04:31 PM
 
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Why do you think the employer mandate was delayed?
Answer my question then I'll answer your's.
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Old 04-01-2014, 04:31 PM
 
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Looks like my quick analysis was right on target. Someone just posted this link in another thread:

White House says 7 MILLION Obamacare enrollments, but study shows 858,000 | Mail Online
Wow, You are depending on an article from a newspaper that is relaying information from a Rand Corporation study which is the basis of an article in the LATIMES, and the article you link to admits only the LATIMES has read the study.

This is the content of that article.

At least 9.5 million previously uninsured people have gotten health insurance since Obamacare started, surveys and reports show.

Obamacare has led to health coverage for millions more people - latimes.com

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Old 04-01-2014, 04:32 PM
 
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Why should you pay school taxes if you don't have kids? Why should you pay taxes for transportation if you don't drive? Why should I pay inflated hospital bills because people without insurance cannot or do not pay? Why should I pay Social Security taxes for people who live too long and did not put enough into Social Security, but can receive it until they die, along with their spouses who may not have put anything into it?
People Living Too Long?
You said paying social security for people who live too long? So now you want to dictate how long is too long? If you are lucky it may be you who is living too long. With Obamacare, I doubt it.

Democrats want to kill grams and gramps.

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Old 04-01-2014, 04:33 PM
 
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Answer my question then I'll answer your's.
No facts, just what I think we will see. So far the way things have been played out have been very predictable. They delayed the employer mandate for a reason. Why?
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Old 04-01-2014, 04:34 PM
 
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Answer my question then I'll answer your's.
I'll ask you then. You do realize why the employer mandate was delayed right? People will lose jobs, others will be forced onto the Obama exchanges because they too lost their insurance. Democrats don't want that to happen before elections.
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