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Old 04-15-2014, 01:34 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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The number one greenhouse gas is H20.

Nothing else even comes close.
Everybody knows that....What's your point?

 
Old 04-15-2014, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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i could say the same thing about tea party zealots but i find theres more tactful ways of denigrating a demographic than name calling. I'll presume these so called liberal freaks are anyone who doesnt agree with you as is happening in this climate debate topic..
No you could not say the same thing about the TEA Party, if you were being honest. However, we already know that honesty is not exactly your strong suit.

You presume incorrectly. Anyone can disagree with me all day long, that does not make them liberal freaks. Like I said, liberal freaks are socialists/communists pretending to be liberals/progressives who desperately want to see the US utterly destroyed. They lie, cheat, and commit numerous crimes to achieve their goal, including using climate change as a vehicle for destruction. They are not interested in cleaning up the environment, or even reducing our carbon footprint. All liberal freaks want is to deprive everyone of their liberty and utterly destroy the US, and they exploit climate change to accomplish that end. In other words, the overwhelming majority of the Democratic Party, and a substantial percentage of the Republican Party, are liberal freaks.
 
Old 04-15-2014, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I believe that the context of a liberal freak he referred to was someone who wants to empower the government to infringe on our personal rights and freedoms, and use the scam of man-made global warming to cease a sizable chunk of our personal wealth thru high taxes, and redistribute it to government corporate cronies, and third world countries, based on a theory and a prediction of what they think might happen in the distant future.
That is correct.

If they are socialist/communist, anti-liberty, anti-freedom, and anti-US, then they are by definition a liberal freak. In other words, they are exactly the opposite of a true liberal yet they pretend to be liberal/progressive.

That includes both Democrats and Republicans.
 
Old 04-15-2014, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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That would be the Earths natural cycle of warming and cooling at work, no human intervention necessary, but thats not the issue of contention in the modern GW debate,its about whether mans activities in current times is adversely affecting a normal warming event to levels that would not be considered natural .
The last eight interglacial periods have been warmer than the current interglacial period.

What is your definition of "not considered natural?" Last time I checked both oil and coal were considered natural products, as are humans. Or are you implying that all humans originated from another planet and therefore are not "natural" to Earth?

The planet should be 2°C to 4°C warmer than it is currently, if we are going by what is "natural" or normal for the planet during an interglacial period. If we are going by historical averages, then the CO2 level in the atmosphere should be 25 times greater than current CO2 levels, O2 levels in the atmosphere should be 25% less than current O2 levels, and the mean surface temperature of the planet should be 75% higher than the current mean surface temperature.

Just because you do not happen to like the current conditions does not make those conditions unnatural.
 
Old 04-15-2014, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Odd how all the GW deniers are rightwing and all those who agree with the scientists on GW are leftwing. I believe these deniers are some fringe conservative element that hates science and are afraid of change in general.
Any righties agree with the scientists take on GW or lefties thinking the global scientific community is perpetrating a grand hoax on the worlds population?
Not odd at all. Climate change is being used by the liberal freaks as a vehicle to destroy the US, their ultimate goal. Those who actually value freedom and liberty are trying to stop that destruction by the liberal freaks. Liberal freaks will not be content until every American is completely destitute, starving, diseased, and living out of caves. Liberal freaks are the lowest form of life in existence.

Those who value freedom and liberty comprehend how liberal freaks are using climate change for their nefarious purposes and will fight to preserve the US.
 
Old 04-15-2014, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Not odd at all. Climate change is being used by the liberal freaks as a vehicle to destroy the US, their ultimate goal. Those who actually value freedom and liberty are trying to stop that destruction by the liberal freaks. Liberal freaks will not be content until every American is completely destitute, starving, diseased, and living out of caves. Liberal freaks are the lowest form of life in existence.
So you lie because you're afraid of liberals. I'll keep this in mind whenever I read anything you say.
 
Old 04-15-2014, 07:41 PM
 
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Default Former UN IPCC Scientist Dr. Lennart Bengtsson Dissents: ‘Declares Climate Models More A Matter Of Faith Than A Fact'

Global Warming a religion..What a surprise

Although the radiative forcing by greenhouse gases (including methane, nitrogen oxides and fluorocarbons) has increased by 2.5 watts per square meter since the mid-19th century, observations show only a moderate warming of 0.8 degrees Celsius...high values of climate sensitivity, however, are not supported by observations...Thus, the warming is significantly smaller than predicted by most climate models...since there is no way to validate them (models), the forecasts are more a matter of faith than a fact.


Lennart Bengtsson: The Science And Politics Of Climate Change | The Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF)
 
Old 04-15-2014, 08:02 PM
 
Location: OKC
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Sorry, but he is no longer a "real" scientist" if he doesn't agree to the nightmare global alarmist scenarios.

One is not allowed to question the accuracy of the computer models or the speculative feedback sensitivity without becoming a denier, a loon, a shill, and an oil company sell-out.

He will be written out of climate science history, thank-you-that-is-all.
 
Old 04-15-2014, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Global Warming a religion..What a surprise

Although the radiative forcing by greenhouse gases (including methane, nitrogen oxides and fluorocarbons) has increased by 2.5 watts per square meter since the mid-19th century, observations show only a moderate warming of 0.8 degrees Celsius...high values of climate sensitivity, however, are not supported by observations...Thus, the warming is significantly smaller than predicted by most climate models...since there is no way to validate them (models), the forecasts are more a matter of faith than a fact.


Lennart Bengtsson: The Science And Politics Of Climate Change | The Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF)
Yet another silly global warming thread from Gretsky....what a surprise.
 
Old 04-15-2014, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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AGW has become 100% political. Rich people are making millions (maybe billions) off the backs of the working class. This will not change regardless of the facts. Climate change is driving government control and expansion of power. It's also driving wealth transfer from the working class to the elite class and Obama is the leader of this evil effort.
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