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Old 04-05-2014, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Obama quote shortly after election: "We won, you lost. Get over it."

Way to reach across the aisle, Mr. President.
Reagan had some class and leadership ability, two things which the current occupant of the White House can't say. I lived through that period...things were a lot rougher in 1980 than in '08. Inflation was rampant, interest rates were approaching 20%, no business could afford to borrow money to grow. Add to that, the lack of leadership in both Carter's and Nixon's administration left the Soviets with a stronger military than ours. Reagan turned all that around...employment was at very low by the time he left office, the economy was booming and the Soviet Union was finished. He made some mistakes, particularly in terms of the growth in domestic spending-he gave away a lot to get concessions from Dems in congress. Still, an amazing 8 years in the history of the country. One of the highest levels of optimism about the future ever. The threat of nuclear annihilation was finally...if not over, at it's lowest level in 4 decades.

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Old 04-05-2014, 07:32 PM
 
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I once thought that Presidents controlled the economy, then I graduated from grade school.
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Old 04-05-2014, 07:36 PM
 
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I once thought that Presidents controlled the economy, then I graduated from grade school.

Sure Don-

I guess then you would not mind if the next US senate and presidency is controlled by republicans then?

That grade school diploma is looking tougher and tougher as time goes on.
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Old 04-05-2014, 07:37 PM
 
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I once thought that Presidents controlled the economy, then I graduated from grade school.
Does that mean Bush isnt responsible for the economy, or did you graduate from grade school recently?
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Old 04-05-2014, 07:38 PM
 
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Reagan had some class and leadership ability, two things which the current occupant of the White House can say. I lived through that period...things were a lot rougher in 1980 than in '08. Inflation was rampant, interest rates were approaching 20%, no business could afford to borrow money to grow. Add to that, the lack of leadership in both Carter's and Nixon's administration left the Soviets with a stronger military than ours. Reagan turned all that around...employment was at very low by the time he left office, the economy was booming and the Soviet Union was finished. He made some mistakes, particularly in terms of the growth in domestic spending-he gave away a lot to get concessions from Dems in congress. Still, an amazing 8 years in the history of the country. One of the highest levels of optimism about the future ever. The threat of nuclear annihilation was finally...if not over, at it's lowest level in 4 decades.
Oh yes I remember the 18%-20% interest rates and that is with good credit. It prevented us from buying a home. No way we could afford it with that interest rate. I agree, back in those days it was hard especially if you were just starting out. Then the economy seemed to take off and got a lot better. Then people got out of hand and started living the good life on credit.
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Old 04-05-2014, 07:42 PM
 
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Does that mean Bush isnt responsible for the economy, or did you graduate from grade school recently?
You mean wasn't responsible, Bush is no longer president and no, he wasn't responsible when he was President.
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Old 04-05-2014, 07:54 PM
 
Location: it depends
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This recession is nothing like 1980. There was no collapse in housing prices.
When the prime rate hit 21% and mortgage rates hit 16%, the price of EVERYTHING collapsed--homes, autos, factories, locomotives, airplanes, power plants, EVERYTHING. You do not know what you are talking about.
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Old 04-05-2014, 08:01 PM
 
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You mean wasn't responsible, Bush is no longer president and no, he wasn't responsible when he was President.
And all that blaming Bush that Obama did.
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Old 04-05-2014, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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The Great Recession was significantly worse than Reagan's. Obama walked into an economic freefall--4+ million job losses in 2009.

Interesting note: unemployment was higher under Reagan at this point in his presidency (7.2%). The rich definitely ate first.
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Old 04-05-2014, 08:06 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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I'm so tired of hearing the non stop babbling bull **** from you left wing kooks, I'm ready to just throw up.

TAX CUTS is NOT spending, in fact it INCREASED revenues.

I couldnt even read anymore of your nonsense
Forbes recently asked a group of Americas most respected economists if tax cuts increase revenues, and none of the economists said yes.

A Tax Cut Won't Increase Revenue - Forbes


No respected economist says tax cuts increase revenues.

Economists Agree: Tax Cuts Cost Revenue - US News
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