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Obama is the equivalent of a class room bully. Bully and attack everyone and then wonder why no one wants to play with him. Tell me every time he talks he isn't attacking republicans. Do you really expect them to want to work with him?
When someone is elected president they are supposed to be president to "all" Americans, yet Obama attacks half of the American people.
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Originally Posted by pghquest
Obama didnt need to get cooperation from both parties, he had everything he wanted for years..
Are you telling me Reagan was more skilled and better equipped for the job than Obama was? I agree..
Obama has been filibustered more than any other president in history. You are either.naive or dishonest if you think Obama has had cooperation from republicans.
The Congressional Budget Office estimated that Obamacare would reduce deficits by more than $100 billion in the first decade, and by considerably more in the second decade -- by half a percent of economic growth. (A half percent of GDP over a decade could mean reducing deficits by more than $1 trillion.)
This is about government spending, deficits, and debt. Lets just say Obamacare will reduce our deficits by $500 billion dollars.
That means with all the Obama spending you listed, the $831 billion for the stimulus, and the $500 billion in reduced deficits from Obamacare, (Obama spent $331 billion dollars.)
Google image search "presidential spending chart", Obama's spending is so low its crazy.
You are lying.
You ask what did he spend money on -- then you switch it to "deficit." Obamacare will spend $2.5 Trillion in total by 2023...yes it raises taxes to offset it...
Obama criticized Bush for using continuing resolutions to fund the war. Obama said using continuing resolutions is a way to hide spending and deceive the public...that he wouldn't do it. He then came in and with a Democratic majority on the Senate (can't filibuster the budget) and Democrats in control of the House...Obama proceeded to do ALL of his spending through continuing resolutions... Obama is a fraud as much as Bush.
Obama is responsible for continuing any spending...and not going line by line...not cutting out waste, not reducing earmarks to 1994 levels by veto if necessary, not reducing no-bid contracts, not banning no-bid contracts above $25K, etc... Obama escalated the Afghanistan War...he could have saved more money by winding that down...Obama followed Bush's Iraq withdrawal, but in fact tried to extend it and has left more troops behind then Bush had planned. Obama has increased our foreign military bases and the amount of drones killing civilians - thus he could have saved more money by being less of a Bush.
Obama has been filibustered more than any other president in history. You are either.naive or dishonest if you think Obama has had cooperation from republicans.
That filibuster count is dishonest. When you ask for numbers they cite cloture...cloture is merely a tool to limit debate.
Cloture has been used on unanimous votes, it has been used when the Dems had a filibuster proof majority, it has been used when the majority of both parties were for it and could have easily beaten a filibuster if tried. The fact of the matter is that cloture is often used when there is no threat of a filibuster or a filibuster isn't even possible...
Dems refuse to cite actual filibusters, but rather cloture...because the whine largely goes *poof*
Obama inherited huge deficits from GW Bush (because Bush lowered rich peoples tax rates and wasted money by attacking Iraq for nothing.)
Obama has cut GW Bush's deficits in half, and Obama has spent less money than any president in the last 60 years.
What about the 17 trillion national debt.? Obama spending has out pass all the Presidents. I do not where you got this data , but to paint Obama as the Deficits cutter , I think not . There again all the Obama administration has done is cut investment dollars that would normally flow in the economy, instead of paying taxes,
Anther over looked detail is the Middle class pays more taxes and we have less ligament deductions now than the Bush years. Bush passed tarp with Democratic control house and Senate. The Tarp was paid back and thusly the Bush Deficit was cut.
Yes since Obama recklessly pulled out recklessly and failed to reach a exit plan wit Iraq which may swing to the Jihadist anyway. There is a saving on defense spending. The other point is the Republicans have been pressuring the President to stop passing unfunded bills.
Paul Ryan has done a very good job in proposing budgets that would end up balance budget. The Line item spending of Obama care will nix any savings. Unfortunately Harry Reid ( Democrat and Senate majority. Leader) attitude is less than for the people. He scoffed at a budget period! No one seems to remember that point.
This will be Obama's money pit.
Obama's QE Trickle Down money creation has cut the deficits. If we had recent historic interest rates the annual deficit would still be $1 Trillion a year.
This recent economic crisis was the worst since the great depression. Reagan didn't have to deal with with the scope of private assets lost. Reagan wasn't in charge of country with a population with as much private debt. Reagan didn't have to deal with globalization and automation at this level.
Current conservatives still believe in an America that doesn't exist anymore. This is a global economy now and most of those jobs lost aren't ever coming back.
That filibuster count is dishonest. When you ask for numbers they cite cloture...cloture is merely a tool to limit debate.
Cloture has been used on unanimous votes, it has been used when the Dems had a filibuster proof majority, it has been used when the majority of both parties were for it and could have easily beaten a filibuster if tried. The fact of the matter is that cloture is often used when there is no threat of a filibuster or a filibuster isn't even possible...
Dems refuse to cite actual filibusters, but rather cloture...because the whine largely goes *poof*
Nope. That count is used for all presidents. No president has been obstructed as much as Obama.
Obama's QE Trickle Down money creation has cut the deficits. If we had recent historic interest rates the annual deficit would still be $1 Trillion a year.
"Obama's QE Trickle Down money creation has cut the deficits."
Could I have a source for that statement please.
(but who can provide a source for a delusion.)
Citing cloture does not accurately show filibusters.
Cloture has been used more than ever, because we have to vote for it to know what is in it in the Age of 1984 Obama.
Nope. The number is used for all presidents.
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