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Old 04-12-2014, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Actually that technology has been out for over 100 years with the 1911 and it's grip safety that must be depressed in order for the weapon to fire. The HK P7PSP and P7M8 series pistols with their squeeze cocker is another one. Countless felons couldn't figure out how to operate it after removing it from the LEOs holster or hand. The S&W Model 40 Lemon Squeezer snub nose .38 with it's grip safety as well as the Springfield Armory XD and XD/m as well just to name a few.
The grip safety has nothing to do with restricting who can fire the weapon. It just requires a proper grip.
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Old 04-12-2014, 03:06 PM
 
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The grip safety has nothing to do with restricting who can fire the weapon. It just requires a proper grip.
Yeah, but do you think a three year old can figure "that" out? It's very doubtful since grown adults unfamiliar with firearms can't. You should see all the people who can't figure out and work a liner lock on a pocketknife for crying out loud.
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Old 04-12-2014, 03:10 PM
 
Location: OKC
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So if the battery died, the gun won't work? Great idea for a weapon that is used only occasionally for self defense.

One of the best things about the typical gun is that it is 100% mechanical. No electronics that can fail, needs power, be monitored, or hacked.
That would be one of the technology things to figure out.
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Old 04-12-2014, 03:17 PM
 
Location: OKC
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Actually that technology has been out for over 100 years with the 1911 and it's grip safety that must be depressed in order for the weapon to fire. The HK P7PSP and P7M8 series pistols with their squeeze cocker is another one. Countless felons couldn't figure out how to operate it after removing it from the LEOs holster or hand. The S&W Model 40 Lemon Squeezer snub nose .38 with it's grip safety as well as the Springfield Armory XD and XD/m as well just to name a few.
Most police use retention holsters now, and on a side note, police getting killed by a firearm is a very rare occurance these days.

We had fewer law enforcement officers die by gunshot this year than any year since 1888. That's not a per capita figure either.

30 were killed intentionally with a firearm, and 2 by accident.

There are around a million commissioned LEO's in the U.S.
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Old 04-12-2014, 03:28 PM
 
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Most police use retention holsters now, and on a side note, police getting killed by a firearm is a very rare occurance these days.

We had fewer law enforcement officers die by gunshot this year than any year since 1888. That's not a per capita figure either.

30 were killed intentionally with a firearm, and 2 by accident.

There are around a million commissioned LEO's in the U.S.
Most LEOs are trained in weapon retention and have back up plans with modern tactical folding knives to slash a would be "grabbers" hand to bloody hamburger with their off hand while maintaining control with their strong hand as well.


Still though, some of these classic designs have their place. If many "gun guys" can't figure out how a HK P7PSP works, does anyone think some ghetto thug will? It's very doubtful.
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Old 04-12-2014, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Where it's cold in winter.
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The Justice Department is considering bringing gun tracking bracelets into federal gun control efforts, Attorney General Eric Holder said Friday.

Holder told a House appropriations subcommittee that the DOJ wants to “explore” gun tracking bracelets and other technological innovations as part of its gun violence prevention programs, the Free Beacon reports.

Eric Holder Says DOJ Wants to 'Explore' Electronic Bracelets For Gun Owners
That's so we can become prisoners in our own homes, and if, while we are away, our wife needs the gun she would be unable to defend herself, unless she knew right where the "bracelet" was.

I think Eric Holder should be wearing an ankle bracelet, and his whereabouts tracked.
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Old 04-12-2014, 03:53 PM
 
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That's so we can become prisoners in our own homes, and if, while we are away, our wife needs the gun she would be unable to defend herself, unless she knew right where the "bracelet" was.

I think Eric Holder should be wearing an ankle bracelet, and his whereabouts tracked.
That's another thing that is nice if you live in a State that does not require your "using" firearm to be locked up. I'm talking about the one to three you have out of your safe and loaded, ready to use. If you are fortunate enough to live in a State that doesn't require them to be locked, you are far better off with it on top of the dresser seven feet up so kids can't reach it, than in one of those damn fingerprint combo bedside safes. About the time I would need it, the SOB would malfunction on me. Glad I don't have to. When small kids come around it goes on top of the frig hidden behind a flower basket or something. I'm not putting my life in the hands of "electronic" devices that can fail and are well known and prone to do so.

How's that damn power door lock and window on your vehicle doing by the way? To be honest, I have a drivers side window motor out right now that I need to replace before it gets much hotter.

No thank you!!
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Old 04-12-2014, 04:22 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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Hey Holder.......I got a nice shiny pair of bracelets for you..........
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