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Old 04-09-2014, 09:56 AM
 
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I am NOT surprised you think the dem way to do it is better.
Gee that's funny... I haven't expressed an opinion about the ACA. I've simply stated the bloody obvious 5 years, 50 votes and not a single piece of LEGISLATION from the Republic Party that pledge to repeal and REPLACE.
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:57 AM
 
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Gee that's funny... I haven't expressed an opinion about the ACA. I've simply stated the bloody obvious 5 years, 50 votes and not a single piece of LEGISLATION from the Republic Party that pledge to repeal and REPLACE.
Haven't you heard?

If you oppose the radical libertarian slant on everything you're a socialist obamabot sheep.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:14 AM
 
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My rates went up less this year than the last two. Depends on the plan and company I guess. The House did pass a measure the other day, and Obama signed it. Now, that's progress. It was passed very quietly with a voice vote. Don't want the base thinking they actually want to improve the ACA.
Companies who self insure can bypass the impositions of the ACA cost increases.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:22 AM
 
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Gee that's funny... I haven't expressed an opinion about the ACA. I've simply stated the bloody obvious 5 years, 50 votes and not a single piece of LEGISLATION from the Republic Party that pledge to repeal and REPLACE.
They are probably afraid to put them out there, after looking at the way Bush's and then Ryan's proposals were demonized. But I agree, if you claim to have the answers, or at least want to offer suggestions, then start doing so, and show some freaking leadership.

The republican led House should start discussions on how to address reining in the high costs, and ways to achieve a greater affordability of health care. Any discussion and any recommendations will take time to come up with. They will need to invite the people who represent the private health care industry, and hear them relate the regulatory barriers and cost drivers to bringing down health care costs and increasing economic availability to the lower income consumers.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:40 AM
 
Location: NJ
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No plan???? Are you kidding?

Several plans proposed. the way to consider the plans is by argument.
It is preposterous that you would think someone would author a pland and say this is it!...with no tempering in the fire of argument and no evaluation and investigation by the press and journalists.

You ask for a plan when the Dems were paid off to get critical votes to pass 2700 pages of legislation that they never read!!!!??????? Why would you now complain there is no viable paln offered. No viable paln was offered for obamacare, just lies. Please redirect your outrage to the Dems who passed this binding legislation and were unaware of its implications as evidenced by the constant surprises and Friday night changes designed to save the Dems votes in 2014 and 2016.

Ask Harry Reid why he never allowed discussion and suggestions to 'fix' obamacare.Ask HR why he never allowed discussion of Repub healthcare plans.

It is outrageous that obamacare would be embraced without knowing what was in it and we still don't know all its implications, and then rage about no Repub healthcare plan.

5.5 years of preparation and obamacare was not even complete when it rolled out and was nurtured with lies by a host of democrats. Any attempt to fix problems were suporessed and now campaigning Dems are running on the premise Obamacare needs to be tweaked!!!!!!

The Dems know their victims and are playing them for all their ignorance, stand back while America falls due to uninformed and blindly ignorant useful idiots. If the press had not turned propaganda machine we'd stand a chance but left to just enough of the masses who can't recognize a photo of John Kerry or Joe Biden and qualify to vote we stand among our ruins.
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:10 AM
 
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What!?! You mean the Republicans in Congress who have been touting "repeal and replace" for the last four years have been lying about that?? Say it isn't so!
Why are YOU lying? Did I say ANYTHING about the repubs in Congress? I said MANY OF US. I am NOT a repub in Congress.
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:04 PM
 
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I must now return to my Lenten observances.
Aw man, me too. I have not drank a soda in weeks, thanks Obama
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:11 PM
 
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No plan???? Are you kidding?
Ah, no.

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Several plans proposed. the way to consider the plans is by argument.
I would think that 5 years would have plenty of time for Republicans to argue amongst themselves in order to present a PLAN, not a proposal.
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:33 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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That's called progress.
The republicans in Washington have spent years attacking Obamacare, but all that republican talk was a lie, manipulation, and a smoke screen. The republicans actually can't do anything to stop/change Obamacare while Obama is president, but that didn't stop them from using Obamacare for political gains, to stall congress, and shutdown our government.

GOP health plan could be road to nowhere - John Bresnahan and Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com


And every republican alternative to Obamacare is said to be worse than Obamacare.

Republicans' Obamacare Alternative Is More Disruptive Than Helpful | New Republic
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:36 PM
 
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You have to be a special kind of rube to be looking for a government health care plan
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