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I know, you all looked at the title, and said "I am going to go into this thread and tear into this, this guys wrong. We ALL know the rich pay more!"
But thats because the debate is all about cherry picking data. We look at federal taxes-but exclude social security which is a 6.3%+6.3% tax....paid for by the working poor. But ONLY on the first 112K of income. The average .1%er has it as a rounding error. Heck as a % of my income I paid more in social security then Romney paid in federal....but then again my federal rate was ALSO higher then his....
But wait...what about state taxes? Turns out thats paid at a 5.6% rate by the average .1%er....and 11% for the poor folks.
So all this screaming about the federal rate, conveniently ignores the other taxes. Why is that? hmmmmm
edit-To clarify the title, twice as much as a % of their income.
I know, you all looked at the title, and said "I am going to go into this thread and tear into this, this guys wrong. We ALL know the rich pay more!"
But thats because the debate is all about cherry picking data. We look at federal taxes-but exclude social security which is a 6.3%+6.3% tax....paid for by the working poor. But ONLY on the first 112K of income. The average .1%er has it as a rounding error. Heck as a % of my income I paid more in social security then Romney paid in federal....but then again my federal rate was ALSO higher then his....
But wait...what about state taxes? Turns out thats paid at a 5.6% rate by the average .1%er....and 11% for the poor folks.
So all this screaming about the federal rate, conveniently ignores the other taxes. Why is that? hmmmmm
Stop substituting "they pay more" for "they pay a higher percentage of their total income." They don't mean the same thing. Your thread title is a lie. Next.
Stop substituting "they pay more" for "they pay a higher percentage of their total income." They don't mean the same thing. Your thread title is a lie. Next.
A fair enough criticism, I could have worded it better. It doesn't change the underlying statement though.
Stop substituting "they pay more" for "they pay a higher percentage of their total income." They don't mean the same thing. Your thread title is a lie. Next.
The working poor pay more than twice as much of their income in taxes as the rich.
A fair enough criticism, I could have worded it better. It doesn't change the underlying statement though.
Next
It completely changes the discussion. You want to discuss the fairness of a cap on social security tax, at least start an honest conversation about it, with an honest title. The lie you use does NOTHING to advance an actual discussion.
It completely changes the discussion. You want to discuss the fairness of a cap on social security tax, at least start an honest conversation about it, with an honest title. The lie you use does NOTHING to advance an actual discussion.
Accusing someone of a lie, when they simply wrote something that you could assume the incorrect meaning of doesn't really contribute to a discussion either now does it? And in the topic I very specifically stated a description that indicated it was a %, AND edited it and added that to the end.
But no, you don't seem to want a discussion. You want to call someone a liar, and NOT advance the discussion it seems.
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