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LOL. Nice play on words. "Suspicion" in the sense they are pretty sure the guy is gay, and while the guy is "not telling" and they are "not asking", they work together just fine. Bottom line - they are functioning and as cohesive as they need to be.
You don't want to use Israel as an example. How about England? They have had an open policy since 2000 and it has been successful.
Apparently there are 24 countries around the world that have open gay military policies and they are as cohesive as you would like.
At one point, his squad was working with a British Army unit. “I wouldn’t go into a briefing room and face them and say, ‘By the way, I’m gay,’ ” he said of his British Army counterparts. “Frankly, I don’t think they were worried, because we were all focused on doing a very, very hard job.”
He recalled something his commander had said, when advising him to come out to his squad:
“The boss said, ‘I think you will be surprised that in this day and age it will be a complete anticlimax, because as far as I’m concerned, homosexuals in the military are yesterday’s news.’ ”
Dude, as long as soldiers spend their time thinking about whether the guy in the next foxhole is gay, it's a problem. And -- as I pointed out previously in discussing cultural differences -- one Erroll Flynnish Brit officer's suave observations mean squat in referece to the U.S. military.
You might not like that. You may find it positively barbaric. But it's true.
Dude, as long as soldiers spend their time thinking about whether the guy in the next foxhole is gay, it's a problem. And -- as I pointed out previously in discussing cultural differences -- one Erroll Flynnish Brit officer's suave observations mean squat in referece to the U.S. military.
You might not like that. You may find it positively barbaric. But it's true.
Dude (), that may have indeed been the case back in Nam. But Nam is over. Guys really don't worry about that stuff anymore. They worry about the Mission.
And as bad as we need bodies to send over there now, I am sure they will be glad to get more support to help with the Iraq rotations. More gay soldiers going to Iraq allows for some more straight soldiers to avoid yet a 4th, 5th tour over there. Time to turn the page.
Dude (), that may have indeed been the case back in Nam. But Nam is over. Guys really don't worry about that stuff anymore. They worry about the Mission.
And as bad as we need bodies to send over there now, I am sure they will be glad to get more support to help with the Iraq rotations. More gay soldiers going to Iraq allows for some more straight soldiers to avoid yet a 4th, 5th tour over there. Time to turn the page.
The mission is not making sure Jack Mcfarland has a matching outift. The military is not a social service agency.
The gay community is pretty much like any other community, except that its members happen to be gay.
What's your point?
Well...just from your use of pink font and your references to matching outfits...it would appear you might have a certain stereotype or preconception of what being "gay" is.
If that is the case - then your opposal to gays in the military becomes much more understandable.
Well...just from your use of pink font and your references to matching outfits...it would appear you might have a certain stereotype or preconception of what being "gay" is.
If that is the case - then your opposal to gays in the military becomes much more understandable.
I just don't understand some of the comments regarding why don't ask don't tell policy is still effective.
There are gays in the military anyway so you would never know if you were laying next to or using the bathroom with another gay man, so what is the difference?
Is it that you just don't want to know?
And whoever said that he does not flaunt his heterosexuality...come on. You flaunt it by making statements that you do not want gays sleeping beside you. We are all human beings not?
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), that may have indeed been the case back in Nam. But Nam is over. Guys really don't worry about that stuff anymore. They worry about the Mission.
