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And I will answer your question again, I have no interest in doing the research for you. If you want to know that answer you will have to research it yourself.
In other words, you have nothing to back up your claim that he's wrong, but you're going to say he's wrong anyway.
yes i do, and the federal government should still STAY OUT of the student loan market. the feds have little reason to be providing financial aid to college students, except perhaps for the military academies.
Having a well educated and working populace isn't a reason?
Some of the laboratory science majors might disagree with this notion. Labs, with all of the necessary tools, etc, are hard to set up at home.
You are quite right. I'm sure there are a number of things that can't just be done at home. You might have drive across town or something. But keeping the university in place in its entirety just to accommodate the tiny minority of subjects that cannot be studied alone at home? Which would you rather do: Pay $50,000 per year in tuition or pool resources with others in your community or area to create the requisite laboratory? Let's say there are 50 people. They'd be spending $2.5 million per year in tuition, so $10 million total for them to get their four year degrees. Spend less than $5 million on a lab and you're saving money. Then you just have to maintain and update the lab and it's available to others in the area pretty much indefinitely. The economics keeping universities around for your example don't add up.
The university is something that we've thoroughly enwrapped in our culture. I don't envision universities dying out anytime soon. But they are a lot less useful than they once were. Everything that universities do could be done cheaper and more conveniently without them. I can't think of any exceptions.
Having a well educated and working populace isn't a reason?
while a well educated and working populace is desirable, it is NOT the purview of the federal government to be financing education, that is the purview of the states. the costs of college was far lower in years past when the feds were not running the financial end of things, and people got along quite nicely without having to run up $25,000+ student loan debt to pay for college. we also got along quite well without the federal government requiring silly social programs be instituted by primary and secondary education administrators as well. it is the federal government that has mucked up the education system in this country, give it back to the states, and get the damn feds OUT of education, and lets get back to actually teaching the children of the country.
You are quite right. I'm sure there are a number of things that can't just be done at home. You might have drive across town or something. But keeping the university in place in its entirety just to accommodate the tiny minority of subjects that cannot be studied alone at home? Which would you rather do: Pay $50,000 per year in tuition or pool resources with others in your community or area to create the requisite laboratory? Let's say there are 50 people. They'd be spending $2.5 million per year in tuition, so $10 million total for them to get their four year degrees. Spend less than $5 million on a lab and you're saving money. Then you just have to maintain and update the lab and it's available to others in the area pretty much indefinitely. The economics keeping universities around for your example don't add up.
The university is something that we've thoroughly enwrapped in our culture. I don't envision universities dying out anytime soon. But they are a lot less useful than they once were. Everything that universities do could be done cheaper and more conveniently without them. I can't think of any exceptions.
The online/local community based model of higher education is being tested in the free market now. Personally, I think the traditional college model is around to stay but time will tell.
The government provides additional capital into the grocery market which increases demand. With higher demand comes higher prices. Same with higher education.
People being able to afford to eat is considered increasing demand. Good to know. shipping costs have more of an effect on food costs than SNAP.
How ridiculous. What a silly game you are playing. You know exactly what the issue is. Can you ever be intellectually honest with yourself and others on this board?
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So you want to regulate what professors say? Doesn't that go against freedom of speech?
You response to the statement about federal aid causing costs to skyrocket.
So basically, you want to spout little quips about statements and then, when asked why, you refuse to answer? Just say it then. That it's your own uninformed opinion with no basis in fact. That you don't want to know the truth, you just want to argue a liberal viewpoint, no matter if it has a basis in fact or not. I've looked at the costs of college and I've seen the way it skyrocketed once the federal government made getting student loans easy and plentiful. So, should I expect another quip in response from you without any actual evidence to backup your statement? I suspect so.
yes i do, and the federal government should still STAY OUT of the student loan market. the feds have little reason to be providing financial aid to college students, except perhaps for the military academies.
I disagree, I wouldn't have been able to go to college if it wasn't for federal student loans.
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shipping costs have more of an effect on food costs than SNAP.