Voting Dead: 44,000 Registered In Both Virginia, Maryland (solution, illegals, Pennsylvania)

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by Rggr

"shared first and last names and the last four digits of their social security numbers"?

You have never heard of popular baby names? And a 4 digit number is going to have the same set from time to time.

[jmqueen]

Originally Posted by Rggr

I thought we were supposed to understand that policies of 1776 were not prepared for today's world. Okay, though, we can go back to only allowing property owners to vote if you wish.

What did I say about policies? I said the voting system has been what it is since then. I think you're confused.

And I still want to know, after hundreds of years, why it's suddenly a pressing issue that requires millions of people to leap through hoops and buy documentation in order to get an ID, and which disenfranchises citizens who have been voting all their lives.

Do tell.

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by jmqueen

What did I say about policies? I said the voting system has been what it is since then. I think you're confused.

And I still want to know, after hundreds of years, why it's suddenly a pressing issue that requires millions of people to leap through hoops and buy documentation in order to get an ID, and which disenfranchises citizens who have been voting all their lives.

Do tell.

30 million+ illegals now living in the US, that's why.

[Rggr]

Originally Posted by urbanlife78

You have never heard of popular baby names? And a 4 digit number is going to have the same set from time to time.

Please.... Yes, there are popular baby names. Yes, 4 digits can be the same. When you combine baby names, last name and the last 4 digits the chances are extremely slim.

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by Rggr

Please.... Yes, there are popular baby names. Yes, 4 digits can be the same. When you combine baby names, last name and the last 4 digits the chances are extremely slim.

Actually it seems like the chances are more common than you think. Though there are 310+ million Americans, so a few 100K can be considered to be extremely slim.

[Haakon]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

We absolutely know how big the problem is.

It is vanishingly tiny.

And Voter ID would do nothing to end it, or enhance our ability to measure it.

Prove it. Why do you people assume that elections are the one facet of government that is perfect when the rest is a giant SNAFU?

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by All American NYC

Voter fraud likely isn’t as “rare” as most would have you believe.

It really is.

[Rggr]

Originally Posted by jmqueen

What did I say about policies? I said the voting system has been what it is since then. I think you're confused.

And I still want to know, after hundreds of years, why it's suddenly a pressing issue that requires millions of people to leap through hoops and buy documentation in order to get an ID, and which disenfranchises citizens who have been voting all their lives.

Do tell.

It disenfranchises nobody. That's a ruse to avoid a responsibility and a standard.

As Happy Texan pointed out, 30 million people fraudulently in this country with a stake in elections.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by Haakon

Prove it. Why do you people assume that elections are the one facet of government that is perfect when the rest is a giant SNAFU?

Okay.

The Truth About Voter Fraud | Brennan Center for Justice

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by Rggr

It disenfranchises nobody. That's a ruse to avoid a responsibility and a standard.

All the research going back ten years proves that statement false.

• Jim Crow 2.0? Why States Consider and Adopt Restrictive Access Policies (Keith G. Bentele and Erin E. O'Brien) (12/10/2013)
• Photo ID, Provisional Balloting, and Indiana’s 2012 Primary Election (Michael J. Pitts) (03/28/2013)
• New State Voting Laws: A Barrier to the Latino Vote? (Jessica A. Gonzalez) (4/15/2012)
• Perspectives: Are voter photo identification laws a good idea? (T. Middleton) (Social Education, 76(2), 66-70) (2012) (no link available)
• Protecting the integrity of the election process (Hans von Spakovsky) (2012)
• Much ado about nothing? An empirical assessment of the Georgia voter identification statute (M.V. Hood and Charles Bullock III) (2012)
• Voting and ID Requirements: A Survey of Registered Voters in Three States (Robert A. Pastor, Robert Santos, Alison Prevost, and Vassia Stoilov) (07/2010)
• Can voter id laws be administered in a race-neutral manner? Evidence from the city of Boston in 2008 (Rachael V. Cobb, D. James Greiner, Kevin M. Quinn) (6/14/2010)
• The cost of the vote: Poll taxes, voter identification laws, and the price of democracy (Atiba R. Ellis) (2/17/2010)
• A new barrier to participation: Heterogeneous application of voter identification policies (Lonna Rae Atkeson, Lisa A. Bryant, Thad E. Hall, Kyle L. Suanders, R. Michael Alvarez) (8/14/2009)
• Documenting Disfranchisement: Voter Identification During Indiana's 2008 General Election (Michael J. Pitts and Matthew D. Neumann) (Summer, 2009)
• The disproportionate impact of voter-id requirements on the electorate? New evidence from Indiana (Matt Barreto, Stephen Nuno, and Gabriel R. Sanchez) (1/2009)
• Effects of identification requirements on voting: evidence from the experiences of voters on Election Day (Stephen Ansolabehere) (1/2009)
• What We Know About Voter-ID Laws, Registration and Turnout (Majorie Randon Hershey) (1/2009)
• The Empirical Effect of Voter Identification Laws on Turnout (Jason Mycoff, Michael Wagner and David Wilson) (1/2009)
• The Voter ID Mess: Estimating the Effects of State Voter ID laws on Voter Turnout and Self-Reported Voting Irregularities (Jeff Milyo) (2009)
• Voter-identification requirements and the learning curve (Timothy Vercellotti and David Anderson) (2009)
• The empirical effects of voter id laws: Present or absent? (Jason Mycoff, Michael Wagner and David Wilson) (2009)
• Modeling problems in the voter identification—voter turnout debate (Robert S. Erikson and Lorraine C. Minnite) (2009)
• ID at the Polls: Assessing the Impact of Recent State Voter ID Laws on Voter Turnout (Shelley DeAluth) (2009)
• Empirically Assessing the Impact of Photo Identification at the Polls Through An Examination of Provisional Balloting (Michael J. Pitts) (10/21/2008)
• Voter Identification Studies: Which Study Is Right? (Kim Hilsenbeck, Sarah Park, Alison Prevost and Vassia Gueorguieva) (5/2008)
• An empirical bayes approach to estimating ordinal treatment effects (R. Michael Alvarez, Delia Bailey, and Jonathan A. Katz) (03/28/2008)
• Voter IDs are Not the Problem (Dr. Robert Pastor, Robert Santos, Alison Provost and Vissia Gueorguieva) (1/9/2008)
• Vote fraud in the eye of the beholder: the role of public opinion in the challenge to voter identification requirements (Stephen Ansolabehere and Nathaniel Persily) (2008)
• The Disproportionate Impact of Indiana Voter ID Requirements on the Electorate (Matt A. Barreto, Stephen A. Nuno, Gabriel R. Sanchez) (11/8/2007)
• The Effects of Photographic Identification on Voter Turnout in Indiana (Jeff Milyo) (11/2007)
• The Effect of Voter Identification Laws on Turnout (M. Alvarez, Delia Bailey and Jonathan N. Katz) (11/2007)
• Voter ID requirements and the disenfranchisement of Latino, Black and Asian votes (Matt A. Barreto, Stephen A. Nuño and Gabriel R. Sanchez) (9/1/2007)
• The Effect of Voter Identification Laws on Aggregate and Individual Level Turnout (Jason D. Mycoff, Michael W. Wagner, David C. Wilson) (8/2007)
• Voter Identification: Suppression or Precaution? (Jason Randall) (4/16/2007)
• Worth a thousand words?: An analysis of Georgia’s voter identification statute (M.V. Hood III and Charles Bullock III) (4/2007)
• Access versus Integrity in Voter Identification Requirements (Stephen Ansolabehere) (1/31/2007)
• Voter Identification (Spencer Overton) (2007)
• Citizens Without Proof: A Survey of Americans’ Possession of Documentary Proof of Citizenship and Photo Identification (Brennan Center for Justice) (11/2006)
• Protecting the Franchise, or Restricting It?: The Effects of Voter Identification Requirements on Turnout (Timothy Vercellotti and David Anderson) (9/3/2006)
• Evidence of Voter Fraud and the Impact That Regulations Have On Voter Participation Rates (John R. Lott Jr.) (8/18/2006)
• Analysis of the September 15, 2005 Voter Fraud Report Submitted to the New Jersey Attorney General (Brennan Center and Michael McDonald) (12/2005)
• Response to the Report of the 2005 Commission on Federal Election Reform (Brennan Center and Spencer Overton) (9/2005)