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Old 12-10-2007, 05:02 PM
 
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Clinton was a joke and never a threat to anyone in any other country. Also Clinton learned the art of smooze in Arkansas.
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Old 12-10-2007, 05:43 PM
 
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Searching for data on the coalition I find:As of August 23, 2006, there were 21 non-U.S. military forces contributing armed forces to the Coalition in Iraq. These 21 countries were: Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Poland, Romania, South Korea, and the United Kingdom.

And the missing 17 are???

And what have we promised in return for some countries participation?

After all, the most obnoxious man in the world can stroll with a beautiful woman on each arm for the right amount of $$$$$$$$$, doesn't mean they're his friends.
49 Countries supported the war.
Afghanistan, Albania, Angola, Australia, Azerbajan, Bulgaria, Columbia, Costa Rica, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiaopia, Georgia, Hondoras, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Israel, Japan, Kuwait, Latvia, Lithuania, Republic of Macedonia, Marshall Islands, Macromedia, Mongolia, Netherlands, Nicaragua, Palau, Panama, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Rwanda, Singapore, Slovakia, S Korea, Spain, Tonga, Turkey, Uganda, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States, Azbekistan.

As for what they "received" in exchange for their support. I'm not privy to such intelligence.. are you suggesting we "bribed" them?
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Old 12-10-2007, 05:45 PM
 
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Clinton was a joke and never a threat to anyone in any other country. Also Clinton learned the art of smooze in Arkansas.
Unless you worked in an aspirin factory, or other locations where you had the pleasure of running into Janet Reno.
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:56 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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49 Countries supported the war.
Afghanistan, Albania, Angola, Australia, Azerbajan, Bulgaria, Columbia, Costa Rica, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiaopia, Georgia, Hondoras, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Israel, Japan, Kuwait, Latvia, Lithuania, Republic of Macedonia, Marshall Islands, Macromedia, Mongolia, Netherlands, Nicaragua, Palau, Panama, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Rwanda, Singapore, Slovakia, S Korea, Spain, Tonga, Turkey, Uganda, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States, Azbekistan.
You said "38 countries are still in Iraq with us", THAT's not remotely close to "49 countries supported the war" I guess it's like "are still in Iraq with us", "supported the war", WMDs, NO WMDs, it's all the same I guess

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As for what they "received" in exchange for their support. I'm not privy to such intelligence.. are you suggesting we "bribed" them?
Well, it took .28 seconds to find a BBC report that: "The US has offered financial inducements to help upgrade Turkish facilities " in exchange for Turkish support of the Iraq war so in a word..............YES!
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Billy Bob grew up in Arkansas too, plenty of trailer trash running through his veins.
Hey, that's nothing but a rude insult.
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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You said "38 countries are still in Iraq with us", THAT's not remotely close to "49 countries supported the war" I guess it's like "are still in Iraq with us", "supported the war", WMDs, NO WMDs, it's all the same I guess

Well, it took .28 seconds to find a BBC report that: "The US has offered financial inducements to help upgrade Turkish facilities " in exchange for Turkish support of the Iraq war so in a word..............YES!

Plus if you investigate the level of "support" you will find the support often consists of a couple squads or other "symbolic" support.

Many countries did initially think they were going to get something out of it from the US ...as was implicitly promised to them...they got out once they understood this was not in fact the case.
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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A little bit of commentary about Alan Greenspan's book by John Farmer:


"Greenspan, Federal Reserve Board chairman for 18 years until he quit in 2006, delivers a devastating critique of Bush in a new memoir, painting the president as an uninformed and incurious leader and an economic dunce whose tolerance for runaway spending squandered a huge budget surplus and saddled the country with a vast annual deficit. (Now he tells us.)

Theres a hero in Greenspans book, but alas for the GOP, its former President Bill Clinton, the epitome of evil in Republican lore.

Contrasting him starkly and favorably with Bush, Greenspan depicts Clinton as a man of limitless curiosity about everything and a veritable sponge, soaking up information like a star student, someone Greenspan could identify with.


"Here was a fellow information hound," Greenspan writes. "We both read books and were curious and thoughtful about the world . . . I never ceased to be surprised by his fascination with economic detail." Clinton and Richard Nixon were the smartest presidents he served, Greenspan says. "

I think world leaders enjoy speaking with those who have some knowledge about their respective countries and a desire to learn more.
Yeah, Wasn't it true that during the 2000 campaign that Bush when asked couldn't name the president of Mexico? Since he was governor of Texas and Texas borders Mexico, you'd think he'd known. This should have served as a warning sign back then that Bush wasn't fit to be president. It sure worked for me as a warning sign. I never voted for Bus.
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:20 PM
 
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Clinton used the carrot more than the stick when dealing with other countries. Not always, but usually. Bush is a bit more vice versa. His administration is going to go down as being remmebered not for 9/11, but Iraq.
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:28 PM
 
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You have to remember the number of governments around the world that Bush has helped bring down, or cripple politically - Spain, Italy, Bolivia, Australia, Poland, Japan, and even Tony Blair in the UK all had governments damaged or ousted due to their support of George Bush. Savvy political leaders know when to spot a bum deal, and Bush is exactly that.

You have to remember that most foreign publics HATE Bush - approval rates are often below 10% - so, what sane leader would get too close to Bush as long as he is still in power?

Bush promised them one thing (quick victory in Iraq under American leadership) and delivered quite another (endless insurgency, raw incompetents like Paul Bremer and Donald Rumsfeld, etc.) Many foreign leaders feel as though Bush lied to them and scammed them. That's the kind of thing that usually works once, and then all the goodwill vanishes, replaced by deep and enduring suspicion.
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:47 PM
 
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Sorry but that statement does nothing to support the argument that other countries dont like Bush..
Hear hear!!!!! Could someone be trolling in here?????
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