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Little iamme's "Analysis of conservatism" = "My hate-filled spews, smears, and insults directed at any conservative I see, regardless of my complete lack of evidence that any of it is true, but I really want it to be so."
A person who thinks he is "fiscally conservative" while being "socially liberal", or some other odd combination, is simply confused.
A conservative is someone who thinks that society is better off if government remains small and limited, having little to do with people's everyday affairs.
Someone who thinks that's true for fiscal matters while not true for social matters; or thinks it's true for religious matters while not true for constitutional matters (insert all possible combinations and perturbations here), is a liberal. Anyone who thinks that government intervention into ANY formerly-private affairs that could have been handled without government intervention, is a liberal (and not the classical-liberal kind). Making a few exception here or there, does not make them conservatives, any more than patching two of the ten holes in a car tire makes it roadworthy.
Little iamme's "Analysis of conservatism" = "My hate-filled spews, smears, and insults directed at any conservative I see, regardless of my complete lack of evidence that any of it is true, but I really want it to be so."
You should move on, creating posts not about the topic but about a screen name doesn't make sense.
A person who thinks he is "fiscally conservative" while being "socially liberal", or some other odd combination, is simply confused.
A conservative is someone who thinks that society is better off if government remains small and limited, having little to do with people's everyday affairs.
Someone who thinks that's true for fiscal matters while not true for social matters; or thinks it's true for religious matters while not true for constitutional matters (insert all possible combinations and perturbations here), is a liberal. Anyone who thinks that government intervention into ANY formerly-private affairs that could have been handled without government intervention, is a liberal (and not the classical-liberal kind). Making a few exception here or there, does not make them conservatives, any more than patching two of the ten holes in a car tire makes it roadworthy.
IMO....I am "fiscally conservative" and "socially liberal".....as long as it is legal.
I do not care what other do......I just will not pay for it.
You should move on, creating posts not about the topic but about a screen name doesn't make sense.
In fairness, you have accused (several times) all conservatives of being motivated by hate and fear. I think it's perfectly on topic to point out the fallacy and utter lack of evidence to support your position. I believe you also lumped all Republicans in there too at some point? As a conservative, not only do I completely reject your baseless definition but I also find it quite insulting that you would be so quick to accuse so many of your fellow citizens of such a thing.
At the core of conservatism is exclusion and this exclusion manifests itself predictably in the mindset of needed out groups to hate and fear.
And conservatives have a lot of out groups that they hate and fear.
You certainly are entitled to your opinion, but your ASSumptions and generalizations are certainly not fact! Remember, repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true. But, feel free to carry on with your rant about what you think that all conservatives think.
A person who thinks he is "fiscally conservative" while being "socially liberal", or some other odd combination, is simply confused.
A conservative is someone who thinks that society is better off if government remains small and limited, having little to do with people's everyday affairs.
Someone who thinks that's true for fiscal matters while not true for social matters; or thinks it's true for religious matters while not true for constitutional matters, is a liberal. Anyone who thinks that government intervention into ANY formerly-private affairs that could have been handled without government intervention, is a liberal (and not the classical-liberal kind). Making a few exception here or there, does not make them conservatives, any more than patching two of the ten holes in a car tire makes it roadworthy.
I am not sure. There can be grades of socially liberal. There are many who actually don't worry about homosexuals being able to marry, it has no effect on their right to marry. There are also many that understand the need for abortion and other birth control available. It's not always they want all the social programs that comes from liberalism.
I am not conservative on a religious front because I am liberal religiously. I look at God as the forgiving father. You might do or say things that might let him down but if you make penance and ask for forgiveness (except if you are say Ted Kozinky or Ted Bundy) God will generally allow that. Why, because God created free will for his human creations. I normally don't like to get into religious discussions because they are many ways to go but often people act like the bible is absolutes and not that it is guidelines and only God Himself can decide if you are worth the forgiveness and not oh you are a fornicator, HELL!
At the core of conservatism is exclusion and this exclusion manifests itself predictably in the mindset of needed out groups to hate and fear.
And conservatives have a lot of out groups that they hate and fear.
If you go by conservatives of the tea party and many on here you would think it is a part of the party. Now is it REALLY that they hate people or is a cross-section like most conservatives being republicans and most republicans being conservative? I am not quite sure.
IMO....I am "fiscally conservative" and "socially liberal".....as long as it is legal.
I do not care what other do......I just will not pay for it.
In other words, you are socially conservative.
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