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Yep. More insults. How predictable. I disagree with you and I'm "daft".
Yes, I am denying the runaway warming that your side has said would cause winters with snowfall being a "rare and wonderful event" or "there will be more floods, making coastal cities such as The Hague “unlivable” by 2007."
I'm denying the runaway warming that your side predicted and can no longer account for and is trying to spin doctor it into saying is hiding in the ocean
I'm denying the notion that we know enough about the climate and all of it's influences and variables well enough to construct computer models that are anything more than exercises in arrogance and futility.
I'm denying the notion that the scientific community is above and removed from the influences of politics, activism, dogma and greed.
Repeating something often enough, does not make it true or a fact. You may claim this is settled science or now in the realm of indisputable fact but more and more, with the passage of time, watching your side's past predictions be contradicted by reality, it is your side that looks foolish and incapable of seeing past their own beliefs.
You went off on a snit for no reason...I'll rephrase it as a question....Do you deny that the earth's atmosphere and oceans are warming....A simple yes or no please.
You went off on a snit for no reason...I'll rephrase it as a question....Do you deny that the earth's atmosphere and oceans are warming....A simple yes or no please.
You don't define the terms of the discussion. You may call it a "snit" but that was my answer. Reread it.
Some alarmist? I personally don't know it is unstoppable, but I am not a scientist and I'm not in the Antarctic...It is the team of scientists that are actually on site measuring the west Antarctic ice shelf that are making that claim...I don't know if they are right or not, but I'd say that they know a hell of a lot more than you do about it.
Says you.
Seriously, just because someone on your side says it is so, that makes it SETTLED science?
Are you serious? Do you think that climate never changes? That nothing that exists today can ever change? That whatever perceived trend is UNSTOPPABLE? Forever and ever?
You people really need to go back to school. You act like the fundamentalists over there on the Christian forum.
Actually we know the Earths temperature 4.4 billion years ago, back then the Earth had a surface temperature of about 446 degrees °F. Hadean - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
NOTHING here indicates that we have accurate ANNUAL temperatures for the period discussed.
NOTHING here indicates that we have accurate ANNUAL temperatures for the period discussed.
Without ACCURATE ANNUAL temperatures, the statistical basis is not valid. PERIOD. Any REAL statisticians on this forum? Perhaps one such person might care to give a lesson in sampling and the requirements of random sampling.
Look, if this is all SETTLED science, as you folks like to say, then why dont you produce graphs like THIS ONE, indicating CO2 levels and global temperatures correlating to long term warming and cooling trends. After all, since it is SETTLED SCIENCE, as you folks like to claim, I'm sure such graphs exist.
Some alarmist? I personally don't know it is unstoppable, but I am not a scientist and I'm not in the Antarctic...It is the team of scientists that are actually on site measuring the west Antarctic ice shelf that are making that claim...I don't know if they are right or not, but I'd say that they know a hell of a lot more than you do about it.
Wow!
Do you even BOTHER to read your own sources?
It is NOT a team of scientists on site measuring the west Antarctic ice shelf
"Joughin's study uses computer simulations and concludes "the early-stage collapse has begun.""
"A NASA study looking at 40 years of ground, airplane and satellite data "
Computer simulations and alarmist predictions. Where have we heard this song and dance before?
Seriously, just because someone on your side says it is so, that makes it SETTLED science?
Are you serious? Do you think that climate never changes? That nothing that exists today can ever change? That whatever perceived trend is UNSTOPPABLE? Forever and ever?
You people really need to go back to school. You act like the fundamentalists over there on the Christian forum.
LOL....It is the bible thumpers that constantly deny evidence, and think that they are smarter than the scientists...Sound familiar?
You don't define the terms of the discussion. You may call it a "snit" but that was my answer. Reread it.
You still have not answered my question.
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