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Old 06-05-2014, 01:29 PM
 
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They never made that claim.

Republicans are a mystery to me, you attack the law, tell people not to sign up , run a fear campaign for the better half of 3 years and then attack the law because parts of it had to be delayed because people believed Republicans when they said they would repeal it ???
Just to make sure I understand you correctly.....your hypothesis is that the Administration delayed key parts of the law because people believed Republicans would repeal the law?

Is that really what you're saying???

Do you ever read what you write? More importantly, do you believe the crap that you put forth???
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:31 PM
 
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Republican logic, if it doesnt fix the problem 100%, then we shouldnt try it at all.
Liberal logic: If it benefits a relative handful of people, we should wreak havoc on the entire healthcare system and still leave 30 million uninsured.
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well duh..drop/postphone and keep pushing off all those items that were supposed to pay for it.

Now it's just citizens paying for it via increased premiums.

The American people have been HAD once again.
And they keep coming back for more.....
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:38 PM
 
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Many of those '30 million' live in states where the GOP governor and/or legislatures refused to implement the program...largely for political reasons.

Love how the GOP take something they are failing to do and make it everyone else's problem.
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Now that Obamacare is proving to be a (another) dismal failure on the part of this administration, Democrats are trying everything they can to make the uninformed voters believe that it was a Republican plan. When Rs suggested delaying the implimentation because the system wasn't ready, Dems shut down the government. Then when it rolls out and as predicted, proved to be a horribly broken system, they do exactly as Rs planned, delay the program. The deceit and desperation would be pretty hilarious...if it wasn't quite so sad and pathetic.
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Many of those '30 million' live in states where the GOP governor and/or legislatures refused to implement the program...largely for political reasons.

Love how the GOP take something they are failing to do and make it everyone else's problem.
LOL..Obamacare created that gap to begin with.
Why not just expand medicaid at the Federal level ?
Instead they made it optional. And when states started opting out they threatened them. It went to court and the judge told the WH "You can't do that". What was their motive ?

Ultimately states will have to pay for that expansion out of their own monies.
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:46 PM
 
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Um, the CBO said they can't reliably project the impact, not that they don't believe it will cut the deficit.

That's not why Republicans are against it.
I'm against it because its a massive welfare program for the insurance companies.
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:49 PM
 
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Many of those '30 million' live in states where the GOP governor and/or legislatures refused to implement the program...largely for political reasons.

Love how the GOP take something they are failing to do and make it everyone else's problem.
Not true. Every State in the union has an Obamacare exchange. (Except for those liberal strongholds of CT/OR/MD/MA where the exchanges have never worked properly and are now being scrapped to the tune of a half billion taxpayer dollars.)

Medicaid users were never expected to foot the bill for the exchanges. Medicaid sucks money, not deliver it to government coffers.

You're definitely confused.
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Significant changes in the ACA roll out and implementation beget significant changes in the cost analysis. I don't know why that would surprise anyone.
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Old 06-05-2014, 02:08 PM
 
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Significant changes in the ACA roll out and implementation beget significant changes in the cost analysis. I don't know why that would surprise anyone.
Your hypothesis is that the changes were so significant that even the CBO can't accurately project or forecast the outcomes?

If so, do you stand by this hypothesis?
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