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Old 06-20-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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I am speaking to the contention that 25% are Jihadists.
That number is likely low given the polls across muslim countries showing widespread support for terrorism.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:27 AM
 
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Frankly, you're full of it.

The early israelis put down a number of their own militias that were unwilling to join the IDF under a single command umbrella, and even in nazi germany there were instances of the wehrmacht taking out SS garrisons that refused to surrender.

Given the insane amounts of terrorism worldwide from muslims, the sheer number of street and towns named after "martyred" suicide bombers, the legion of muslim-government-led demonstrations extolling violence and murder, the broadly-based muslim cultural affinity with terrorism supported by dozens of polls across muslim-majority countries, the widespread oppression/murder/mistreatment of women, minorities, and non-muslims, to even pretend to claim that islam is not a death cult or that it drives a huge number of muslims to terrorism and violence is simply laughable.

If there were a majority of muslims who did not believe in terrorism or violence, far fewer would be practicing it.
Frankly, you're way out of your league if that's the best argument you can make.

Again - what should peaceful Muslim citizens around the world "do" about the terrorists among them? Drone strikes (because private citizens own such weapons, right?) Assassinations? Sternly worded emails? Maybe they should vote the terrorists out of office... oh, except that those nations don't work that way.

Face it - you've got nothing. All you're doing is ranting and frothing about how "the peaceful Muslims ain't doing nothing about the terrorists!" You have NO solutions proposed, and when people point you to instances of Muslims speaking out against terror, you whine that they need to "do more." Do what, exactly? Start their own private little war? What exactly are these peaceful civilians, scattered around the world, supposed to do with their own private funds that America - with infinitely more money and military might - hasn't already failed to do in the quest to end terrorism in the Middle East?
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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Tell me specifically what you would like a link to. What claims?
You said her claims were lies, prove it.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:31 AM
 
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lemme guess, b. gabriele is a self-hating right wing mouthpiece puppetcon?
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:32 AM
 
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You said her claims were lies, prove it.
There are far too many claims, so I asked specifically for which claims, as I'm not about to spend hours debunking 100 of them.

The two links I posted on the other page are a good start.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:34 AM
 
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If this is fantastic then I'd hate to see what is subpar.

Can someone please point out where Brigitte Gabriel has condemned actions by radical Christians in the Congo, Uganda, Rwanda, Russia, and, yes, the USA? Most Christians are peaceful but I rarely see Christians speak out against those who are not, including the ones who targeted my family with violence growing up in the American South. The peaceful majority of Christians are irrelevant to me - after all, what does that matter when no one speaks out against the radicals or instead invokes the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. Let's take political correctness and throw it in the garbage where it belongs.
Now, now - I'm sure somebody will speak up on how those Christians are just "hating the right people" or are "hating people who hate them" or some other double-speak.

The reality, as you've explained, is that the average citizen can't do jack squat about terrorists who hijack their religion and use it for evil. That is true of Muslims, Christians, etc. For people to whine about how the "peaceful one's are doing anything" is absurd. The United States wasted trillions of dollars in the Middle East on two wars and still failed to end terrorism in that part of the world - what the heck are random citizens supposed to do about it?!
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:37 AM
 
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It was, in fact, her right-wing Maronite Christian militia heroes who carried out much of the sectarian killings during that war, stopping people at checkpoints and killing them if they were Muslim, carrying out massacres like the one at Sabra and Shatila in 1982.
As someone from the mideast with in depth knowledge of the lebanese civil war, I would tell you to stop posting about it, you HAVE NO F--KING IDEA what you are talking about. The far left lunatic fringe you are clinging to with its laughable claims that christian militias started the massacres is abject nonsense.

An idea to remember, if you are not knowledgeable on a topic, DON'T POST ABOUT IT. ASK OTHERS FOR HELP.

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Her claims are all lies. No one takes her seriously, this thread is giving her the publicity most don't give her because they know she's a liar who is only given a platform at AIPAC events.
The requisite BS answer from a muslim terrorist apologist with zero facts. She is 100% credible, and lived through the civil war, which infuriates the pro-muslim terror apologists because she has first-hand experience which cannot be refuted.

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Old 06-20-2014, 11:38 AM
 
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Now, now - I'm sure somebody will speak up on how those Christians are just "hating the right people" or are "hating people who hate them" or some other double-speak.

The reality, as you've explained, is that the average citizen can't do jack squat about terrorists who hijack their religion and use it for evil. That is true of Muslims, Christians, etc. For people to whine about how the "peaceful one's are doing anything" is absurd. The United States wasted trillions of dollars in the Middle East on two wars and still failed to end terrorism in that part of the world - what the heck are random citizens supposed to do about it?!

Makes a person wonder what these types are doing about THE WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH?
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:39 AM
 
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If this is fantastic then I'd hate to see what is subpar.

Can someone please point out where Brigitte Gabriel has condemned actions by radical Christians in the Congo, Uganda, Rwanda, Russia, and, yes, the USA? Most Christians are peaceful but I rarely see Christians speak out against those who are not, including the ones who targeted my family with violence growing up in the American South. The peaceful majority of Christians are irrelevant to me - after all, what does that matter when no one speaks out against the radicals or instead invokes the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. Let's take political correctness and throw it in the garbage where it belongs.
Please show us where russians, and others were acting in their efforts on behalf of christianity? Then show where christians are suicide bombing/attacking large numbers of civilians under the banner of christianity.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:41 AM
 
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As someone from the mideast with in depth knowledge of the lebanese civil war, I would tell you to stop posting about, you HAVE NO F--KING IDEA what you are talking about. The far left lunatic fringe you are clinging to with its laughable claims that christian militias conducted the massacres is abject nonsense.

An idea to remember, if you are not knowledgeable on a topic, DON'T POST ABOUT IT. ASK OTHERS FOR HELP.



The requisite BS answer from a muslim terrorist apologist with zero facts. She is 100% credible, and lived through the civil war, which infuriates the pro-muslim terror apologists because she has first-hand experience which cannot be refuted.
Blah, blah, blah... I've worked with Muslims, broken bread with them, and been to Istanbul, which makes me about as much of an expert as you are, and I can safely say that most of them are harmless.

As for the rest, your posts are downright insulting - accusing anyone who isn't interested in your sick little genocide goals of being "terrorist apologists" - and beneath even the low standards for this forum.

Take your hate and pack it in. Nobody cares what nonsense you're spewing at this point since your message of hatred is clear, which is painfully ironic since you supposed aren't in favor of people who paint entire swaths of the population in negative terms... but I guess it's okay to hate them if they are Muslims, "liberals," or "terrorist apologists."

The broad, sweeping hate you're peddling is no different than that spewed by some rogue iman in the backhills of Nowherestan.... disgusting!
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