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Old 06-23-2014, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Pa
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All Republicans or just some?
I don't like the ACA because it is a very expensive, poorly executed piece of legislation. I don't like that I have to now pay more for the same product I already had. I don't like that Obama felt the need to lie repeatedly to try and sell it.
I'm not a republican, but I can understand where many come from.

 
Old 06-23-2014, 09:57 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated View Post
He's the POTUS. The POTUS has to keep the 1% happy, or they inflict economic pain on the other 99%. It isn't partisan.
Well that's a pretty cynical statement that's probably true.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 10:01 AM
 
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Oh, now 1% are needed. That is NOT what Obama preached about during ANY of his campaigns. He called them evil.
No he didn't.

The 1% aren't evil (most of them, at least). Only crooks like the Koch brothers and Pete Peterson.

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We are Republican....we have enough money for the rest of our lives.

We were forced to take free Obamamcare.......to pay for insurance the way the questions were asked....we had to take Medicaid.

What a country!!!!
Yep. Forced to contribute to health care. Without it, chumps can not pay a cent and clog up the emergency room on taxpayer dime.

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It's only 2014. Single payer is the goal by around 2016-2017 when the fees for NOT having healthcare will be more expensive than getting insurance. It's too early to come to conclusions on ObamaCare.

I don't like it because government needs to be removed from the process. The price structure of health care is all out of whack. The solution is not to add more regulations, more overhead costs, more government control over our life decisions, etc.
The government caused health care costs to get out of control?



Ludicrous.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 10:03 AM
 
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No he didn't.

The 1% aren't evil (most of them, at least). Only crooks like the Koch brothers and Pete Peterson.



Yep. Forced to contribute to health care. Without it, chumps can not pay a cent and clog up the emergency room on taxpayer dime.



The government caused health care costs to get out of control?



Ludicrous.
No.....ours is FREE.

Like I said....what a country!!!!
 
Old 06-23-2014, 10:03 AM
 
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No.....ours is FREE.

Like I said....what a country!!!!
Nothing is free.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 10:04 AM
 
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We are Republican....we have enough money for the rest of our lives.

We were forced to take free Obamamcare.......to pay for insurance the way the questions were asked....we had to take Medicaid.

What a country!!!!

If its a flaw the same flaw exists with Medicare with people with very high net worths and high incomes getting subsidies worth almost $500 per month. You wont find too many conservatives on Medicare complaining about that little subsidy. Lots of people in California for example also are living in $800,000 houses they bought 30 years ago or more but have relatively low incomes. Should they have to sell their house to qualify for the ACA or Medicaid? Probably since they live in California...By the way nobody forced you to sign up for Medicaid. You could have signed up for the ACA or just bought a plan from a broker. So you took advantage of the law just like a lot of people who use section 179 write offs for SUV's..You wont see conservatives wanting to change that anytime soon.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 10:05 AM
 
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No he didn't.

The 1% aren't evil (most of them, at least). Only crooks like the Koch brothers and Pete Peterson.



Yep. Forced to contribute to health care. Without it, chumps can not pay a cent and clog up the emergency room on taxpayer dime.



The government caused health care costs to get out of control?



Ludicrous.
Wow, this post is devoid of any intellectual backing whatsoever. Especially your last sentence.

Of COURSE government is part of the reason healthcare costs are so high! From malpractice insurance requirements (ie. no tort reform), to immigration policy, to Medicare and Medicaid, to burdensome regulations etc etc etc......ALL of it has government written all over it! And yet here you are saying that government didn't cause costs to spiral out of control????
 
Old 06-23-2014, 10:05 AM
 
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Nothing is free.
I know....but, I don't get a bill.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 10:08 AM
 
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The GOP doesn't like the ACA because it gives poor people better access to health care.

"Why do the poor deserve health care?"
The ACA was also to give all Americans insurance...hows that working for ya...

And just so you here it from obama....

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My plan begins by covering every American. If you already have health insurance, the only thing that will change for you under this plan is that the amount of money you will spend on premiums will be less," Obama said. "If you are one of 45 million Americans who don't have health insurance, you will after this plan becomes law."
Obama Unveils Universal Health Care Plan - CBS News
 
Old 06-23-2014, 10:08 AM
 
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Good article that shows that all the rightwing talking points about the ACA have proven to be untrue.
A minor reminder, not to shoot the messenger here, but NY Magazine is as militantly liberal, if not more so, than anything in Mother Jones. Take any political issue they discuss with a healthy dose of skepticism.
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