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Old 06-26-2014, 12:59 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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You can try and put as many words in my mouth as you would like, but you're only making inferences. As I never said, that I believe ALL Muslims are anti-Israeli. That's what YOU said. What I meant by "it's a start" is that you at least admitted that they were anti-Israeli. The next thing to admit is there are also many that are anti-Semitic.

Please show me anywhere that I've said ALL Muslims are anti-Israeli. Go through as many of my posts as you want. I've never said any such thing.
How about we all misinterpreted each others posts, meet somewhere in the middle and move forward past this bump in the road?
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:05 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Most Muslims have probably never met a Jew or Israeli and therefore couldn't care less. But virtually all Muslims in the Middle East who DO have an opinion about Jews and Israel are probably anti-Israel at the very least, and anti-Semitic at worst. Why? Because they've been taught that way their whole life and have never heard any opinion to the contrary.

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Mostly correct. And let me add that in the area I live in (the US), none of my neighbors had ever spoke to a Jew before they met me.
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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You can try and put as many words in my mouth as you would like, but you're only making inferences. As I never said, that I believe ALL Muslims are anti-Israeli. That's what YOU said. What I meant by "it's a start" is that you at least admitted that they were anti-Israeli. The next thing to admit is there are also many that are anti-Semitic.


In the end, it is YOU that said THIS:


Please show me anywhere that I've said ALL Muslims are anti-Israeli. Go through as many of my posts as you want. I've never said any such thing.
I'm putting the words in your mouth that came out of your mouth....nothing more, nothing less.

You meant that they are ALL anti-Israeli and by extension, ALL anti-Semitic.
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Old 06-26-2014, 02:07 PM
 
Location: OC/LA
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I'm putting the words in your mouth that came out of your mouth....nothing more, nothing less.

You meant that they are ALL anti-Israeli and by extension, ALL anti-Semitic.
No I didn't.
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Old 06-26-2014, 02:34 PM
 
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No I didn't.
Ok...fine.
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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On France, I think the Muslims have studied European history and think the French will surrender without a fight as they have in the past. I have predicted that the French will be forced to pray to Mecca in the future.
What history is that?

If the U.S. thought France would surrender without a fight, then it would have invaded by now.

Remember the 'Axis of Evil' speech given more than 10 year ago? Do you wonder why only Iraq was invaded? Maybe it is because the Koreans handed America their asses last time and it would no doubt happen again. Maybe because Iran, despite 35 years of U.S. directed economic warfare, can still easily kill tens of thousands of Americans during an invasion, and successfully occupying it would kills tens of thousands more; not only in Iran, but also in American cities where people would become paralyzed with fear that they would next to fall victim to a 'terrorist' attack. And wars against either Iran or North Korea could escalate into larger conflicts that would result in the deaths of hundreds of thousands if not millions of Americans.

So...what country likes to start wars against people who give up without a fight?

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Old 06-26-2014, 08:59 PM
 
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Oh yeah....what does it suggest? You tell me.
I don't know why the interactions between (most; there are major exceptions such as Turkey, Bangladesh, etc.) Islamic and non-Islamic societies have been so marked by terrorism and violence in recent years. I do know that the universality of that problem to cover many interactions involving Islamic and non-Western societies neatly disproves the hypothesis that it is a reaction to Western actions in specific.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:01 PM
 
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I don't know why the interactions between (most; there are major exceptions such as Turkey, Bangladesh, etc.) Islamic and non-Islamic societies have been so marked by terrorism and violence in recent years. I do know that the universality of that problem to cover many interactions involving Islamic and non-Western societies neatly disproves the hypothesis that it is a reaction to Western actions in specific.
Not to me it doesn't.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I don't know why the interactions between (most; there are major exceptions such as Turkey, Bangladesh, etc.) Islamic and non-Islamic societies have been so marked by terrorism and violence in recent years. I do know that the universality of that problem to cover many interactions involving Islamic and non-Western societies neatly disproves the hypothesis that it is a reaction to Western actions in specific.
Uh, decades of the U.S. and U.K. treating Arab states like pawns and stealing their oil? Hypocrisy about freedom and human rights?

When is that last time you heard a U.S. president criticize Saudi Arabia for its repressive treatment of Saudi citizens?
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Old 06-27-2014, 06:25 AM
 
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Typical French bashing going on here. Nothing new. As if fat-ass Americans knew how traumatic the first world war had been for the French. Only twenty years later another attack from the same ennemy.
All of Europe surrendered or complied with the German, not only the French. And the British were protected by the English channel and would have surrendered eventually without the US intervention in Europe. That's pretty much the reason why the US fought the Germans in Europe, they didn't wanna lose their greatest ally at the time.
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