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The typical City-Data Global Warming thread starts with an outrageous fact by a deny'er like, "the earth is actually cooling"... ... and things devolve from there. This works as well as it does because the typical C-D reader lives in the U.S. In many ways the U.S. is insulated from meaningful exposure to meteorological trends. An F5 tornado is a significant meteorological event. It is not in itself meteorologically significant.
AGW matters because, we are on track to becoming extinct as a species in around 100 years. This fact does not concern the typical C-D reader because s/he is not likely to be alive in 100 years no matter what breakthroughs in life extension occur between now and then. It falls to me, apparently, to tell you why you should care that we are on track to being extinct in 100 years. It is because extinction will not happen in a stroke. It will take 100 years for it to happen and it has started to happen already.
In as few as 25 years we could see, here in the u.S. the kind of environmental, political and economic destruction that make working, playing and any other kind of meaningful human experiences difficult or impossible. That should bother you. It should frighten you. It should make you furious that till now there is not the social or political will to turn away from our headlong plunge into apocalypse.
Those who work in Agriculture, especially those at higher and lower latitudes than much of the U.S. don't argue whether or not Climate Change is happening. They know it is. When your livelihood is ended. Over and out. Because the crops you grew cannot thrive anymore in the new climate that is now a reality of your location... ... well... its hard to argue with cold hard reality. Those who have the financial wherewithal can relocate wineries, olive groves, and oyster beds. Those who can't, go out of business.
Bee's will become extinct in 25 years. Monsanto isn't concerned, but you should be. AGW didn't kill the bees, agricultural pesticides did. But the several dozen strains of various Monsanto products are not even close to re-creating the natural biodiversity that was our inheritance. When the climate changes are too much for Monsanto patented hybrids... ... famine and chaos. 25 years. I'll be 80. That's not the age you want to be engaging in hand to hand combat just to get food to live on for the day.
Starfish will be extinct in a decade or so. Not just some starfish, all starfish. Gone. Prey to a virus that is overcoming their immune systems because they are already under so much stress from the measly 1*C rise in ocean temperatures since the species evolved. Ocean critters have ZERO tolerance to temperature change. Their environment hasn't changed in MILLIONS of years. Together, starfish and coral are more biologically significant than all other kinds of sea life put together. Both are dying off at an unprecedented rate.
And we don't care. Apathy over AGW is at record levels because of the zealotry with which the Deny'er community goes about its mandate to keep the status quo of economic activity which they fear would be jeopardized by any meaningful attention to Climate Change. It should frighten you that they are so single-minded and selfish. It should make you furious.
To be continued... ...
I admire your dedication to reality, and more info is always welcome, but conservatives do not care about reality when it comes to public policy.
There have been a few major decisions in American politics in the last 13years and conservatives have been stunningly wrong about all of it.
First start with the disastrous Iraq War that conservatives cheer leaded, then the equally disastrous War on Terror which conservatives cheer leaded and which gave us drone strikes, making it easier to spy on Americans, the idea of pre emptive war, torture, indefinite detention, all completely wrong.
Now let's look at the financial crisis and the deregulation that conservatives pushed but more importantly us a key part of their economic ideology, do laid to waste that Alan Greenspan had to admit the truth of his error in thinking about deregulation.
Then there was the stimulus which conservatives said wouldn't help the economy, it immediately started to reversed the job lose trend when it was implemented and helped the GDP grow. Conservatives predicted rising inflation the dollar being worthless blah, blah, blah wrong.
Then there was the auto bailouts, conservatives were utterly proven wrong again by their dumb doom and gloom predictions of government motors.
Then there was the ACA health care law, again conservatives made a number of predictions about that it that all 100% have proven to be wrong.
Then there are lesser errors their hilarious mass delusion that Mitt Rmoney would win in a landslide. Nearly every conservative pundit against polling data picked Mitt Rmoney to win, conservatives even massed delusion end themselves into believing that the polling companies were all in a conspiracy polling more Democrats and thus conservatives took to up skewing the polls.
This is what the Presidential election proved to me that conservatives are into mass delusions. They all believed the skewed polls, they all believed a massive conspiracy amongst all the polling companies.
The 2012 mass conservative delusion about a massive conspiracy of skewed polls all orchestrated to elect President Obama is how we get mass delusions about Benghazi, or the IRS scandal, or fast and furious or the idea that President Obama is an imperial President and how conservatives can believe that climate change is a mass conspiracy being carried by climate scientists all over the world.
Prove that it's doctored. It would be easy to do right? Just take the individual measurements from each satellite system and confirm. Go ahead prove it.
Your first chart was doctored and claimed a 0.3 temperature increase as you proclaimed, when in fact the increase from 1979 was app. 0.55...The makers of that graph cherry picked the warmer temp. of 1980 as the starting point in order to show less warming....The second chart you posted is more honest....By the way the .05 increase since '79 is a lot when compared to app. 0.85 since 1880....This certainly shows that global warming is accelerating...Thanks for posting.
So are you are accusing NASA and NOAA of faking graphs?
You already have. Or did you manage to forget the NASA graph that showed a 0.51°C increase in global surface temperature since 1880? First, you posted it yourself as definitively proof of global warming. Then I posted the exact same NASA graph a few weeks later, and you called it a lie.
Don't look now, but your double-standard is showing, again.
there again, i think you are reading more into my post that what is really there. i love the free markets, as long as they are not being used to manipulate things. the commodities market is great for keeping prices stable over time.
Your first chart was doctored and claimed a 0.3 temperature increase as you proclaimed, when in fact the increase from 1979 was app. 0.55...The makers of that graph cherry picked the warmer temp. of 1980 as the starting point in order to show less warming....The second chart you posted is more honest....By the way the .05 increase since '79 is a lot when compared to app. 0.85 since 1880....This certainly shows that global warming is accelerating...Thanks for posting.
There may in fact be all the warming you claim and it may all be due to man's contribution to atmospheric CO2, but it still doesn't matter because the warming effect of each addition of CO2 decreases exponentially.
If you put on a pair of sunglasses that block 50% of the Sun's rays, putting on a second pair doesn't block the other 50%, it just blocks 50% of the light that gets through the first pair.
If we are close to having doubled the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere and all we have to show for it is a couple degrees over a century and a half, then relax.
The worst warming effects of additional CO2 are already behind us.
Oh...while we're on the subject, GHCN v3 is bull ****!
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June was 0.3C above average over satellite record (and that's with a building El Nino). We are all going to fry! 
