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Old 07-03-2014, 12:49 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Plus, they will eventually end up having infighting which will speed over the process.
Yep, eventually they'll disintegrate into factions, each claiming that the others aren't "pure" enough, and they'll self-destruct.

Kind of like the Republican Party.

 
Old 07-03-2014, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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They are opening a war up on 3 fronts, so it's not likely they will last long at all. Plus, they will eventually end up having infighting which will speed over the process.


There's already in-fighting, they already started in on the former Ba'athist and native Iraqi Sunni fighters that made up a bulk of their forces in Iraq and now these groups are going at it as well.
 
Old 07-03-2014, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Ali was robbed of the kob in the 7th century.
 
Old 07-03-2014, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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I hope they form a functioning state from which severe, consistent and powerful attacks directly into the heart of iran, syria (against assad), and lebanon (against hezbollah) can be made frequently, and aggressively. I pray they are able to strike at the cancerous, diseased, murderous fake regime of thugs in iran, and destroys that regime, its military, its illegal nuclear weapons program, and all of its proxy army units around the region.
In other words, what you hope for is the killing of millions of totally innocent men women and children that just want to live their lives in peace.

What do you think of people who have the same hopes for the USA?
 
Old 07-03-2014, 02:12 PM
 
Location: southern california
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preventing the mideast from killing people that dont agree with them has been our job for 13 years. how is that working out?
btw there are 18,000 homicides per year here. how well are we doing at home?
 
Old 09-14-2015, 07:34 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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I don't see how they can make it work. It seems that if they got lasting control over a region in the middle-east that region would turn into an economic basket case. But they probably wouldn't mind that as long as they can implement sharia law. Maybe it would work for awhile but I can't see it working for very long. All they have going for themselves is the ability to kill a lot of people who don't agree with them.
It is worth noting that a lot of ex-Baathists who previously worked for Saddam Hussein now work for ISIS. Thus, ISIS might unfortunately be more capable of state-building than some/many people give it credit for.
 
Old 09-14-2015, 07:35 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Yep, eventually they'll disintegrate into factions, each claiming that the others aren't "pure" enough, and they'll self-destruct.

Kind of like the Republican Party.
Frankly, I suspect that ISIS's religious fanaticism might be somewhat of a facade.
 
Old 09-14-2015, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I don't see any lasting ability to govern that is based on murder and destruction. ISIS has been unusually quiet for the last month, what's up.
 
Old 09-14-2015, 07:42 PM
 
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It is worth noting that a lot of ex-Baathists who previously worked for Saddam Hussein now work for ISIS. Thus, ISIS might unfortunately be more capable of state-building than some/many people give it credit for.
It could work in that a strict Islamic Wahhabist Caliphate could succeed but not likely with Al Baghdadi at the helm, like Milosovic in Serbia he has already committed too many atrocities to gather any support and no middle eastern state can survive long without making some powerful friends.
 
Old 09-14-2015, 08:12 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I don't see how they can make it work. It seems that if they got lasting control over a region in the middle-east that region would turn into an economic basket case. But they probably wouldn't mind that as long as they can implement sharia law. Maybe it would work for awhile but I can't see it working for very long. All they have going for themselves is the ability to kill a lot of people who don't agree with them.
Not to worry ISIS is the JV team. Obama was heard humming a line from Pancho and Lefty......

"All the Federales say
We could have had him any day.
We only let him slip away
Out of kindness, I suppose."
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