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Old 08-07-2014, 11:47 PM
 
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If one added up the costs of criminalization and subtracted what criminalization brings in I believe the numbers would be a gain for the state and would be a good reply to those with concerns.
I don't think that would be true at all. Let's say you get busted with possession and go to jail for a year. How does the state gain money? The cost to house an inmate is $40K. Rather, I would imagine the money the state gains is from the taxpayers. It's hard to justify some of their budget if they don't have a lot of arrests.
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Old 08-08-2014, 12:57 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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U.S. Marijuana Legalization Weakens Mexican Cartels

Once again, us liberty minded folks prove that you can solve most problems with more freedom, not less:
Statist will never admit they are wrong..

"Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan." - John F. Kennedy

"It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions--by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader, and by every newspaper. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match."- John F. Kennedy

Tyrants never let the light of truth shine for if it did it would expose the horrors of the works..
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Old 08-08-2014, 01:04 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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So a business that sells a high price items gets rob..If someone stole a few Cadillac you would not have posted.
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Old 08-08-2014, 03:22 AM
 
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And earlier this week, a NatGeo special on the Mexican Cartels (it was called "Narco Wars" or "Narco Bling" IIRC) reported that they were shifting from growing marijuana to manufacturing methamphetamine. The special stated that 80% of meth available on the streets of America is now originating from Mexico. The special cited the reason for this change is that meth labs can't be discovered from the air (as pot plantations can) and the profits per pound are much higher for meth.

Don't get me wrong... I am all for the decriminalization of marijuana. However, you'll never convince me that legalizing a drug that slowly turns the user into a toothless degenerate who's head resemble a jack o'lantern left on the front porch until third week of November is a step in the right direction.
Your friends were using something much more powerful than weed and could have been legal or prescribed.
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:15 AM
 
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Fewer Colorado teens think pot harmful, use down since legalization
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Old 08-10-2014, 01:50 PM
 
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U.S. Marijuana Legalization Weakens Mexican Cartels

Once again, us liberty minded folks prove that you can solve most problems with more freedom, not less:
Now if only you could convince the red states of this idea.
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Old 08-11-2014, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Once again, us liberty minded folks prove that you can solve most problems with more freedom, not less:
I'm not surprised at all. Freedom does solve many problems. We should NEVER have allowed government to tell us what we can eat, drink or smoke.

PS: I'm posting this from Amsterdam.
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Old 08-11-2014, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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So a small percentage of there market is lost due to legalization, and it causes a 75% drop in prices? I find that claim dubious.
Why do you think it was a small percentage?
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Old 08-11-2014, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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None of these are real legitimate arguments for legalization. The only legitimate arguments are the level of harm in no way justifies what we are spending to stop it and the level of harm in no way justifies us stopping people from doing this.
Actually, the only argument that is needed is that government has no right to tell me what I can eat, drink or smoke. Nothing else matters.
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Old 08-11-2014, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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The OP is BS...There are only TWO states that legalized it. That aint ****. Won't make a dent in their sales. Again PURE BS!
Actually, 23 states plus DC.

Plus lots of cities like Austin have stopped their efforts to arrest users.
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