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Old 08-10-2014, 10:18 AM
 
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
The rest of the US is catching up to what Texas schools have had for a while.
I'm sure CA has the same demographic makeup in schools.

This issue is going to be how K-12 will deal with this.
The majority will be Hispanic and English will be their 2nd language.
Well, they can either compete or not, but the world's elite speak English.
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well, they can either compete or not, but the world's elite speak English.
It's not just the elite. Global business is done in English.
Anyone who works for a multi-national know that.

I was on a team that consisted of 5 countries. All communications were done in English and that included Central American countries. The folks from Brazil spoke fluent English as well as wrote it.

Only in the US are we not insisting the same of our residents.
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:27 AM
 
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It's not just the elite. Global business is done in English.
Anyone who works for a multi-national know that.

I was on a team that consisted of 5 countries. All communications were done in English and that included Central American countries. The folks from Brazil spoke fluent English as well as wrote it.

Only in the US are we not insisting the same of our residents.
Same here. Our Singapore office communicates in English. We still insist on English though. You aren't getting a decent job without knowing English and the schools & Universities teach in English.
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Same here. Our Singapore office communicates in English. We still insist on English though. You aren't getting a decent job without knowing English and the schools & Universities teach in English.
China, for example, introduces English in 3rd grade as a core subject and taught every year after that.
Other countries do the same.
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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You and the article you linked to have conflated correlation and causation. The fact that those that are from lower socio-economics classes score lower does not mean that being poor causes low test scores. This faulty idea has been disproven time and time again, because different ethnic groups from lower income brackets don't all score equally bad. The gap in testing still exists even when income is accounted for.



When looking at causes of test scores, racial group has better predictive value than income level.
I hate that chart but facts are facts. When I share it with Black folks during a debate they're stunned.
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I hate that chart but facts are facts. When I share it with Black folks during a debate they're stunned.
For some reason the US thinks a higher income will solve all the problems.
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:41 AM
 
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So test scores were high when Whites were still the majority? In K-12, the US has never been at the top, but is at the top when it comes to higher education.
It's because of selective admissions. Students are sorted by skill/ability level into different schools and therefore receive an education much more suited to their needs. Everyone learns more under those circumstances. U.S. Public K-12 nearly universally refuses to do the same, so we're stuck on stupid.
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The data is what it is, but the influx of Hispanics over the last generation pushed the figure over the top.

News from The Associated Press
I'm thinking "white flight" to private schools for a better education hasn't hurt the numbers, either.
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:43 AM
 
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This beautiful diversity can only lead to peace and prosperity.
And a blissfully lower standard of living. Enjoy! /sarc
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I'm thinking "white flight" to private schools for a better education hasn't hurt the numbers, either.
White Flight might take away some percentage but the demographics are truly changing.

NYC has only 35% non Hispanic White residents.
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