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Old 08-28-2014, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Here is another Paul editorial where he takes more swipes at Hillary/Obama on foreign policy. I just wonder if Paul is peaking to soon and will run out of steam since there is a lot of time left. This is a good read because Paul does not leave out {R} party on his criticism on U S foreign policy. He comes to the same conclusion of most Cd posters that are foreign policy is a cluster .....

Our so-called foreign policy experts are failing us miserably. The Obama administration's feckless veering is making it worse. It seems the only thing both sides of this flawed debate agree on is that "something" must be done. It is the only thing they ever agree on.


Rand Paul: How U.S. Interventionists Abetted the Rise of ISIS - WSJ
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Old 08-28-2014, 08:32 AM
 
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Isolationism is a category of foreign policies institutionalized by leaders who asserted that their nations' best interests were best served by keeping the affairs of other countries at a distance, as well as a term used, sometimes pejoratively, in political debates. Most[who?] Isolationists believe that limiting international involvement keeps their country from being drawn into dangerous and otherwise undesirable conflicts. Some[who?] strict Isolationists believe that their country is best served by even avoiding international trade agreements or other mutual assistance pacts.[1]


Non-interventionism – is the belief that political rulers should avoid military alliances with other nations and to avoid interfering in wars bearing no direct impact on their nation. However, most non-interventionists are supporters of free trade, travel, and support certain international agreements, unlike isolationists.

Both Paul's were non interventionist not Isolationist.
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Old 08-28-2014, 08:35 AM
 
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Is Rand Paul a Secret Hawk? Or Maybe Not a Total Dove? - The Daily Beast

Either way I think Rand panders WAY TO MUCH to special interests and pretty much whoever he is trying to please at the moment instead of sticking to his guns and sticking to a stance...starting to remind me of Romney...either way he will never get my vote.Neither will Hillary.
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Old 08-28-2014, 09:36 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This will be his biggest problem and might be the reason he may have trouble getting the nomination: His isolationist attitude is hard for many other than his strongest supporters to accept. I am not a hawk, by any means but I am have trouble with isolationism. I know his supporters say he isn't an isolationist, I disagree.

There is nothing isolationist about not wanting to be the worlds bully any longer.
He doesn't want to end trade with those nations and isolate them from us, or us from them.

The problem is, there are many that think the same absolutes as you and think all, or nothing.
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Old 08-28-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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There is nothing isolationist about not wanting to be the worlds bully any longer.
He doesn't want to end trade with those nations and isolate them from us, or us from them.

The problem is, there are many that think the same absolutes as you and think all, or nothing.
You know I never have said I wanted to continue policing the world or fight for our values and way of government to apply to everyone. I don't want us involved in the wars others are fighting unless the outcome could eventually carry over to us. I am just not convinced his way is the right way. I am for compromising but not when it means giving up...Again, you know I am leaning toward supporting him but I am not going to make up my mind until I hear more of what others have to say and we get a little closer to 2016. I don't think it is wise to make a decision too far from the election. Now what he needs is someone to teach him to smile!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-28-2014, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Is Rand Paul a Secret Hawk? Or Maybe Not a Total Dove? - The Daily Beast

Either way I think Rand panders WAY TO MUCH to special interests and pretty much whoever he is trying to please at the moment instead of sticking to his guns and sticking to a stance...starting to remind me of Romney...either way he will never get my vote.Neither will Hillary.
Wow, I am not quite sure where you are getting your impression of him, but obviously many do not agree. pandering is the last thing I would accuse him of doing. If anything he might stand up for his beliefs so much that he will end up, like his dad, not willing to compromise.
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Old 08-28-2014, 12:00 PM
 
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You know I never have said I wanted to continue policing the world or fight for our values and way of government to apply to everyone. I don't want us involved in the wars others are fighting unless the outcome could eventually carry over to us. I am just not convinced his way is the right way. I am for compromising but not when it means giving up...Again, you know I am leaning toward supporting him but I am not going to make up my mind until I hear more of what others have to say and we get a little closer to 2016. I don't think it is wise to make a decision too far from the election. Now what he needs is someone to teach him to smile!!!!!!!!
I'd say this was a quite fair position to hold.
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Old 08-30-2014, 05:43 PM
 
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Hilary is a hawk though. Lol at the people who still think she's a liberal
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Old 08-30-2014, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Is Rand Paul a Secret Hawk? Or Maybe Not a Total Dove? - The Daily Beast

Either way I think Rand panders WAY TO MUCH to special interests and pretty much whoever he is trying to please at the moment instead of sticking to his guns and sticking to a stance...starting to remind me of Romney...either way he will never get my vote.Neither will Hillary.
Look how he votes. His votes prove he doesn't pander.
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Old 08-30-2014, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Hilary is a hawk though. Lol at the people who still think she's a liberal
To those on the far left, yes you might see her as a hawk, but to most this is not the case, nor is she a dove, but she does lean liberal in many situation or liberal compared to many. There is more to liberal versus conservative than foreign policy.
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