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Old 09-02-2014, 07:23 AM
 
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Sure there are, but who do you have in mind to lead Iraq, Libya & Syria that fit this description?
What is your point. We already established they exist. I am not the Prez. He can and should find them.
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:28 AM
 
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What's right? Who made you the jury or judge? Beheading is wrong but dropping bombs is right? What about invading an independent country without provocation?

We are not the world police. Let them kill each other and bring on the cable.
Whats right?

This should kickstart your education The Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Dropping bombs in a war on criminals and terrorists is right. Beheading an innocent man is not.

Without provocation?

LMAO

Iraq - Brutal Oppression Dictator
Afghanistan - Brutal Oppressing Group harboring terrorists
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:31 AM
 
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The problem with your analogy is simple, ask any police officer what is the worst type of call they get and they will tell you most of the time domestic abuse calls. Mainly because when you arrive and say arrest the abuser you must also watch the abused that they don't in fact end up trying to kill you. WE MAY defeat an organization like ISIS but after than what ? Another group worse than them would show up.
Hence the need for colonization. Peace and stability must be forced on them until (probably a long time) there is a change in minds/attitudes.
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Old 09-02-2014, 08:25 AM
 
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Given that Obama was first briefed about ISIS over a year ago and today he's stating he has no strategy; he's either not listening during the briefings or he's willfully ignoring his military advisors.

During every news film clip of ALL of these militant azzhats parading their victories they're riding in American Humvees and carrying American made weapons you've donated to their cause by giving them to groups who do not have the capability or will to fight to keep them.

You know this chit is going to end up in the hands of your enemies in any case Why do you keep giving hardware to incompetent forces who just turn around and hand it over to the guys who shouldn't have it?

Obama sends boots on the ground anywhere; imagine their chagrin when run over by a column of Humvees full of ragheads firing a M240, M2, or the Mk 19 grenade launcher from their armoured turrets.

Here's a thought; why not build in a chipped self destruct mechanism into all of this chit so once a year you can send a signal to clean house and start over?
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Old 09-02-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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Too bad we can't find an honest good natured but stern person who is motivated by peace, equality, freedom, and stability to lead x country.
Yeah like both the Bushies who cozied up to the Saudis' because they were getting wealthy from being oil buddies with them. Only one plane allowed to take off immediately after 9/11. 'Get those Saudi Bin Ladin family members and princes out of here ASAP in case we get found out'.

You folks need to give a thought to who you put in that Oval office as the bought and paid for ones ain't working out too well.

It all starts right there in your voting booths. Dangling chads are the least of your voting ignorance intelligence deficit.

Never mind entertaining the idea of "finding" a morally and ethical enfranchised foreign leader, better instead you should focus on finding one for yourselves.
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:26 AM
 
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Yeah like both the Bushies who cozied up to the Saudis' because they were getting wealthy from being oil buddies with them. Only one plane allowed to take off immediately after 9/11. 'Get those Saudi Bin Ladin family members and princes out of here ASAP in case we get found out'.

You folks need to give a thought to who you put in that Oval office as the bought and paid for ones ain't working out too well.

It all starts right there in your voting booths. Dangling chads are the least of your voting ignorance intelligence deficit.

Never mind entertaining the idea of "finding" a morally and ethical enfranchised foreign leader, better instead you should focus on finding one for yourselves.
All politics are corrupt.

However, you can find some people that keep the corruptness limited to behind closed doors small scale (still big by individual terms) financial racks and benefits minus all the oppression and killings.
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Right now, ISIS is in the Middle East. The Middle East-not Montana. As long as they limit their slaughter to the ME, we should not risk the lives of American servicemen and women fighting them. IF (and it's a big IF) the people of the ME actually oppose ISIS, they can stand up and fight their own battles. It's not our job to do it for them. And if they "oppose" ISIS but don't care enough to fight them it's certainly not worth an American life, or the TAXPAYERS $$ to do so. It's long past time the people of the ME stepped up and took care of themselves and not count on others to provide for them. If they fight ISIS, fine, that will end the problem. If not, ISIS will sell oil as readily as any other Islamic nutjob.
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Old 09-02-2014, 03:33 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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That would be a good question for the next election?
To win the argument, the person has to say: " I would speak to our enemies" then you will see them travel the world, bowing to other leaders, apologizing for Americas past sins, and blame obama for their issues. That would be the pathetic leader that would win 2016.
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Old 09-02-2014, 06:22 PM
 
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I would sell intel to all sides and let them kill each other.
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:19 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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What is your point. We already established they exist. I am not the Prez. He can and should find them.
I believe some people like this do exist in the world, but not from those countries, who are also capable of ruling. The choices are to introduce Democracy & let them legally vote in jihadists or install a dictator to rule over them with an iron fist. There are no educated, peace loving people, capable of ruling those cavemen.
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