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Old 10-26-2015, 08:11 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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What do you mean "without any factual basis?" GDP is far higher; unemployment below what it was under Reagan; the lowest uninsured rate in generations; deficits are sustainable and the Mets won the pennant for the first time since 1986. All those are undeniable facts.
If these are the directions in which you wish society to move, then yes, Obama's presidency is a success.

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Old 10-26-2015, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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What do you mean "without any factual basis?" GDP is far higher; unemployment below what it was under Reagan; the lowest uninsured rate in generations; deficits are sustainable and the Mets won the pennant for the first time since 1986. All those are undeniable facts.
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the lowest uninsured rate in generations
lowest uninsured??? there are STILL over 35 million uninsured...the ACA has done NOTHING to make more people insured



you are correct on one thing...my Mets have won the pennant(and hopefully the world series)....now if only my Jets could stop giving away games
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Old 10-26-2015, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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MAJOR FAILURE - the economy is in a shambles with more people below the poverty line, more people not working (not the false UE numbers the WH gives) and more people on subsidies than ever, Obamacare is a massive failure and we have more division and separation based on gender, class and race. Obama and the Dems failed at green energy, tried to induce higher gas prices, have been held in contempt and basically not lived up to any campaign promises at all.

There is a reason why Obama is generally considered the WORST President of all time.
I just have to laugh at the alternative universe that these people live in. The economy is in shambles? Really? They know, just know, that inconvenient numbers like the UE rate are just made up. The real numbers are flown by black helicopter to Area 51 and buried.

Around 16 million people, according to independent sources, do indeed have health insurance who otherwise wouldn't. [Millions more would be insured if Republican-controlled states weren't refusing to expand Medicaid.]

Most people enrolled under Obamacare report high satisfaction with their coverage, which is hugely better than simply not being uninsured.

On "Green Energy" solar installations are happening at an increasing rate and more installed last year than the previous decade.
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Old 10-26-2015, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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lowest uninsured??? there are STILL over 35 million uninsured...the ACA has done NOTHING to make more people insured



you are correct on one thing...my Mets have won the pennant(and hopefully the world series)....now if only my Jets could stop giving away games
Yes, this is from Gallup:



Obamacare ruling: what about the 35 million people who are still uninsured?

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One answer lies in persuading those Republican-controlled states which have resisted its local implementation to take up an offer from the federal government to pay for extended Medicaid coverage. This was designed to fill the gap between those adults not poor enough to qualify for existing Medicaid assistance but not wealthy enough to pay for their own insurance on the Obamacare exchanges.
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Old 10-26-2015, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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but even your link shows the expansion....has been in mediciad


so essentially no one has gotten insurance...but 9 millin have been added to the medicaid rolls
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Old 10-26-2015, 08:41 AM
 
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What do you mean "without any factual basis?" GDP is far higher; unemployment below what it was under Reagan; the lowest uninsured rate in generations; deficits are sustainable and the Mets won the pennant for the first time since 1986. All those are undeniable facts.
Anyone on the planet can cite statistics. But only an intellectual....or a liar....can attempt to show that Barack Obama is actually responsible for those statistics.

Too bad you don't know the difference between liking an outcome (opinion) an actually affecting an outcome (fact). But, i'm not surprised.
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Old 10-26-2015, 08:53 AM
 
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"You don't have to go back too far in time to find no country on the map known as Israel." Really? Where do you think Jerusalem was located 2000 years ago? Yes, we all need a better understanding of history.
True, very true, but who among us is most in need of the better understanding here?

Are we referring to the maps made by man over 2,000 years ago?

I would love to see such a map with the country of Israel illustrated on it's face, so would a lot of historians.

And if we can turn one of those up, where is the North American continent on that map?

Then too, what of the many maps before, during and after that time? Which are we to consider when establishing the right or wrong of today's modern day nation boundaries?

Perhaps a second question to ponder before another silly notion about history...

As we consider historical maps of old and the appearance of Israel at some time before the appearance of the Northern World on these maps, and if we are to deem Israel's existence and boundaries based on these maps, are we to believe the Northern Continent does not exist?

Is it history or politics that determines which maps stake our territories and which do not?

The Mexican government and many others are very interested to know...
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Old 10-26-2015, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Austin
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http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...04_America.jpg

Some citizens continue to proudly proclaim our country is out of recession thanks to Obama. But based on the millions and millions of Americans still on food stamps and the decreasing labor participation rate, I fail to see how anyone who works for a living could say Obama has been anything but an abysmal failure during his two terms in office.
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Old 10-26-2015, 08:58 AM
 
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but even your link shows the expansion....has been in mediciad


so essentially no one has gotten insurance...but 9 millin have been added to the medicaid rolls
What is the point?

CMS covers 100 million people...

...through Medicare, Medicaid, the Children's Health Insurance Program, and the Health Insurance Marketplace. But coverage isn't our only goal. To achieve a high quality health care system, we also aim for better care at lower costs and improved health.
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Old 10-26-2015, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...04_America.jpg

Some citizens continue to proudly proclaim our country is out of recession thanks to Obama. But based on the millions and millions of Americans still on food stamps and the decreasing labor participation rate, I fail to see how anyone who works for a living could say Obama has been anything but an abysmal failure during his two terms in office.
SNAP participation, which generally moves up and down with the economy, has dropped. Moreover, with more people, the trend is usually upward. We also have to add how the eligibility rules were relaxed under Bush.
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