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Old 11-07-2014, 09:00 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
Did you know that Saudi Arabia has no religious discrimination? Everybody has the exact same right to worship Allah in their local mosque.

Those "Christians" are just looking for special rights for themselves.
Saudia Arabia doesn't discriminate in regard to sexual orientation either. Every person has the equal right to have sex with someone of the opposite sex after marriage, and every person has the equal right of being executed for having sex with someone of the same sex.

Next thing you know some gay Saudi will be asking for the special right not be executed for having gay sex. The nerve.

 
Old 11-07-2014, 09:13 AM
 
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A majority of Americans don't attend church regularly. By definition, those who go to church every Sunday are deviant
Meaningless.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 09:14 AM
 
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Then stop using the mullahs' logic in political discourse, mmkay?
I am not the one who brought up mullah's logic, mmkay?
 
Old 11-07-2014, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Meaningless.
As was your previous statement, thats the point of my meaningless post, to point out your meaningless argument.

Like I've said, many times, there is a states rights argument to be had on homosexual marriage. IF you feel that states should be able to decide it on their own, that is a valid argument to be had. Thats what the 6th Circuit court stated. Its why the Supreme court will have to argue it.

If your argument is that homosexuality is deviant, and shouldn't be acknowledged, well, that argument holds no water based on law. Lots of deviant behavior is recognized as normal by the law.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Humboldt County, CA
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Meaningless.
Yes, this does sum up your arguments rather well, thank you.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 09:27 AM
 
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Yes, this does sum up your arguments rather well, thank you.
No it doesn't.

I am not accepting deviant behavior.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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It takes either some serious gonads or some serious stupidity (or both) to look at the rulings of every other such case and simply decide you are right and they are not. Shameful and completely against precedent, but only a minor setback in the grand scheme of things.
The 6th Circuit Court is highly respected and has the fewest decisions over-turned of any of the federal appellate courts.

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Special rights? Are you talking about something other than what the thread is actually about?
It is about special rights.

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No special rights here.
Uh-huh.....well, you had best check your federal and States budgets as well as county and city budgets.

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I find it right on topic.
Indeed it is.

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Stupid. Are you saying homosexual people should force themselves to marry people they are unattracted to or just sit down and shut up?
They have the choice of not marrying.

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Suspected by who or what qualified mental or physical health organizations in this day and age?
Yeah, and qualified experts of the day thought eugenics was wonderful, too.

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You do understand that homosexual behavior is incredibly common throughout the entire animal kingdom, right?
That is false.

Animal behavior is commonly misunderstood.

Humping/mounting are displays of superiority-submission, not homosexual behavior.

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You think that's clever - and that's sad.
It's not sad, it's as normal as being left handed.

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And what you've described isn't "punting" or avoiding - what you've described would require the Supreme Court taking the case and upholding the 6th Circuit ruling while overturning the rulings of the 4th, 7th, 9th, and 10th Circuits.
Wouldn't be the first time.

The 6th Circuit is well-respected, much more so than the 7th and 9th.

In fact, the esteem and respect of the 6th Circuit is greater than the 4th, 7th, 9th and 10th in toto.

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The original point was that homosexuality is not some kind of aberration specific to human beings.
Yes, it is an aberration.

The function of all life forms on this Planet is to reproduce to ensure the survival of the species.

Evolution has resulted in some species going to extraordinary lengths to procreate to ensure their continued survival on this Planet.

We stand in awe and marvel at sea turtles, salmon; insects that eat their mates; mating rituals; and even that plant-life which relies on its seeds being consumed by other organisms and transported great distances to perpetuate the species.

Humans are neither special nor different than any other life-form on this Planet.

If you can explain how a human fetus can gestate in a rectum, maybe I'll take you seriously.

Aside from that, you're doing nothing more than attempt to legitimatize deviant behaviors.

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It is true that both rape and homosexuality occur in other species of animals.
No, it is not true.

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Why do you worry so much about something that has zero impact on your life?
It's costing me money, so your claim of "zero impact" fails.

Oh, wait.....that's right.....you think the special programs and services provided to homosexual veterans are free.

You tap the special funny stick on the ground twice, and money falls out of the sky, showering the VA so tax-payers don't have to bear the burden.

Normally...


Mircea
 
Old 11-07-2014, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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"Special Rights" lol! The 70s is calling and wants it's bigot talking point back

Based on the SCOTUS ruling regarding DOMA, it's highly likely this will force the few states that discriminate against gay people to step into the 21st Century.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 09:54 AM
 
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The 6th Circuit Court is highly respected and has the fewest decisions over-turned of any of the federal appellate courts.

The 6th Circuit is well-respected, much more so than the 7th and 9th. In fact, the esteem and respect of the 6th Circuit is greater than the 4th, 7th, 9th and 10th in toto.
How do you figure? Look at the last SC term: the 6th Circuit had 11 cases reviewed by the Supreme Court, and 9 were overturned. The 4th had 2 cases reviewed, and 1 was overturned. The 7th had 3 cases reviewed, and 0 were overturned. The 9th had 12 cases reviews, and 11 were overturned. The 10th had 3 cases reviewed, and 2 were overturned. (Overall, the SC overturned 52 of 70 cases (74%) it heard).

And when you look at the 6th having 11 cases reviewed and the 9th having 12 cases reviewed, remember that the 9th hears and decides more than double the number of cases the 6th hears and decides.


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It is about special rights.
What special rights?

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Animal behavior is commonly misunderstood.

Humping/mounting are displays of superiority-submission, not homosexual behavior.
What about the many animals species (especially prevalent in birds) where same-sex pairings monogamously nest for life and raise young together - usually with higher survival rates than young raised in "traditional" nests?

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The function of all life forms on this Planet is to reproduce to ensure the survival of the species.

Evolution has resulted in some species going to extraordinary lengths to procreate to ensure their continued survival on this Planet.

We stand in awe and marvel at sea turtles, salmon; insects that eat their mates; mating rituals; and even that plant-life which relies on its seeds being consumed by other organisms and transported great distances to perpetuate the species.

Humans are neither special nor different than any other life-form on this Planet.
You have a very naive understanding of evolution and population biology. Think about this question for awhile - perhaps go take an upper lever college biology course or 5 - and then get back to us: why has mother nature carved out non-reproductive segments (sub-populations) in practically every higher animal species on Earth?
 
Old 11-07-2014, 09:59 AM
 
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No it doesn't.

I am not accepting deviant behavior.
Most are not accepting your increasingly deviant opinion. Mind your own business - you're NOT g-d.

Anyway, this ruling is really not a surprise. I think we all felt one of the circuit courts would do this. Meh. I don't see how SCOTUS could not rule in favor of making marriage equality legal across the country. Looking forward to it.
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