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Medicare and Medicaid are alreayd "for profit" oriented..
Thats why the government contracts much of it out to the private sector..
oh, you didnt know that.. but stood here and embarassed yourself high 5ng government while waaa waaang against companies who service the same individuals..
Yes and it was Republicans who brought the private insurance companies in for Medicare Part C and its also Republican Governors like Bobby Jindal who want to privatize Medicaid.
Actually the CBO paper you linked included illegals and pegged the uninsured rate at 54 million without the ACA and shows a reduction of 12 million uninsured with the ACA. My links, as I have explained to you before, either include the illegals or they do not, but cannot include (or exclude) the illegals in the pre ACA numbers and then exclude (or include) them in the post ACA numbers.
Do I really have to go through the trouble of reposting information that I have already posted?
Which one of these sources is really me in disguise?
Originally posted by lycos679 10-15-2014:
41 million were uninsured in 2001.
47 million were uninsured in 2006.
49.9 million were uninsured in 2010.
48.6 million were uninsured in 2011 48 million were uninsured in 2012
I don't see any hard numbers for 2013, but it appears to be greater than 47 million uninsured.
the discussion isnt what the numbers would be WITHOUT ACA
The discussion is what took place AFTER ACA was passed..
Even lycos numbers that you just quoted shows the 2012 number at 48 million (which is what I said happened) before it fell back down to 41 million mid 2014..
His numbers actually PROVE I'm correct.
The 2001 and 2006 figure INCLUDES illegals.. about 14 million of them..
The recession's continuing toll on jobs, a tendency to undercount people on Medicaid and other factors make it hard to come up with an exact number. And the most widely accepted range — 40 million to 50 million — includes some 10 million non-citizens, a detail that's generally overlooked when Obama and others talk about "uninsured Americans."
Another government survey, the Medical Expenditure Panel Survey done by the Department of Health and Human Services, says that about 40 million people were uninsured for all of 2007, and about 70 million were uninsured for part of the year.
You can ignore the numbers if you want, but your ignorance doesnt mean its not true.
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