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Old 12-08-2014, 12:58 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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All government is tyranny.

It never ceases to amaze me how anyone can think government on any level is a good thing.
At best, government is something that you hold your nose and tolerate.

There is a very good reason for this, people and I mean all people are corruptible.
The big difference between government corruption and individual corruption is the ability of government to expand corruption to a much higher level by way of force.

The government uses force to usurp peoples freedom and steal their money. They do this mostly under the guise of providing some sort of benefit to the people.

Governments number one task is to constantly fail. It is through failure that it not only perpetuates itself, but provides the reason for its constant growth and need for infringement into every aspect of the peoples lives. It is their constant failure that justifies the never ending public debt and tax increases. Every war begats another war, every social program encourages an ever growing sense of entitlement. Every law creates a reason to arrest people and to point to ever increasing crime.

It is truly insanity, and the people not only condone it, they constantly volunteer to give more of their freedoms and more of their money believing the lies that they are going to get something for free.

Of course it was the governments public education that molded their minds and their morals to believe the way they do, and to perpetuate the system which enslaves them.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The duty of government is to leave commerce to its own capital and credit as well as all other branches of business, protecting all in their legal pursuits, granting exclusive privileges to none. - Andrew Jackson


We NEED a government, not a nanny.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:31 PM
 
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We NEED a government, not a nanny.
A limited government.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:53 PM
 
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A limited government.
This is a meaningless phrase that keeps popping up.

The government is limited in many ways: The election process itself, term limits, three equal branches with their own limiting abilities, etc. If someone wants these limitations strengthened, or if he wants other limitations implemented, that's fine, but just saying "limited government" is too vague to hold any meaning.
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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All government is tyranny? So does that mean we should have no government at all?
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:05 PM
 
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All government is tyranny? So does that mean we should have no government at all?
The OP is a bit specious, as even at the clan level, hierarchies of authority exist.
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:16 PM
 
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People in the country are what's failing the country. This is a total system failure.

We vote in the legislators and president. We have the opportunity to let legislators what we want and don't want. Kids aren't taught properly - it's the parent's responsibility, not the teacher's or schools. We have allowed government to be where it's at. Maybe it's by not calling out bad legislation because it comes from a particular side of the aisle.

We are collectively at fault.
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:17 PM
 
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People in the country are what's failing the country. This is a total system failure.

We vote in the legislators and president. We have the opportunity to let legislators what we want and don't want. Kids aren't taught properly - it's the parent's responsibility, not the teacher's or schools. We have allowed government to be where it's at. Maybe it's by not calling out bad legislation because it comes from a particular side of the aisle.

We are collectively at fault.
Agreed. So, I take it you disagree that all government is tyranny?
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Baja Virginia
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All government is tyranny.

It never ceases to amaze me how anyone can think government on any level is a good thing.
The libertarian paradise of Somalia is waiting for you.
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:47 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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People in the country are what's failing the country. This is a total system failure.

We vote in the legislators and president. We have the opportunity to let legislators what we want and don't want. Kids aren't taught properly - it's the parent's responsibility, not the teacher's or schools. We have allowed government to be where it's at. Maybe it's by not calling out bad legislation because it comes from a particular side of the aisle.

We are collectively at fault.

I think it was Ben Franklin that said something to the effect, that the grand experiment in freedom & liberty will end, when the people realize they can vote themselves the entire treasury of the United States of America.
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