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Old 01-08-2015, 02:53 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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My dear, Suzi, if your parents had died from all these life threating contagious diseases, would you be here today????? I am pretty sure your direct ancestors also survived the 1918 flu pandemic also. No just ME. Humans have and will survive. Vaccines or not.
Um, not if they died after procreating.

 
Old 01-08-2015, 02:57 PM
 
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Every single human being (not just ME) because their ancestors survied all this diseases. The human race was not wiped out in the past, and wont' be due unvaccinated people today.
So, it doesn't matter if thousands of deaths are preventable

or millions of death


as long as a few people live, its all good?


SO the people of the Walking Dead tv show is, from what i understand, a win for humanity? Like everytime you watch an end of the world show if it doesn't kill 100%. . your like

someone survived

bleck!
 
Old 01-08-2015, 04:17 PM
 
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No one has predicted the end of the human race d/t flu. Your ancestors survived to reproduce, period. I really don't know what your point is. My great-grandmother lost three kids in three weeks plus had a stillborn during a diphtheria epidemic.
Did your great-grandma die before she was old enough to have children at all? Did you grandma or grandma die before they had your parents? Did your parents die before they had you?

Do you UND3RSTAND what I am saying????? It is not we are all going to DIE without these vax. Obviously, everyone alive today hasDIRECT ancestors who did not die without be vaccinated.
 
Old 01-08-2015, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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My dear, Suzi, if your parents had died from all these life threating contagious diseases, would you be here today????? I am pretty sure your direct ancestors also survived the 1918 flu pandemic also. No just ME. Humans have and will survive. Vaccines or not.
What screwy logic!

The folks who died in childhood left no descendants. Go to any old cemetery and look at the number of graves of children, many of whom died from infectious diseases like measles, whooping cough, and diphtheria. I have a second great grand uncle who died during the Civil War - from measles. He was 24, never married, no children.

Someone could have children, then die from influenza or another vaccine preventable disease. Do you actually believe no one who died in the 1918 influenza epidemic had children? Really?

Just because you are here now does not mean none of your ancestors ever died from diseases that can be prevented by vaccines today. Odds are some of them did: yellow fever, smallpox, and tuberculosis, to name a few. I have a fifth great grandfather who died of typhoid fever in 1819, along with three children, a daughter-in-law, and several grandchildren. He left enough descendants to fill a book, though.
 
Old 01-08-2015, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Not under the rules if they need a prescription and especially since ACA.
Since it is not a controlled substance, a script for Tamiflu can be phoned in without a face-to-face visit.
 
Old 01-08-2015, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Did your great-grandma die before she was old enough to have children at all? Did you grandma or grandma die before they had your parents? Did your parents die before they had you?

Do you UND3RSTAND what I am saying????? It is not we are all going to DIE without these vax. Obviously, everyone alive today hasDIRECT ancestors who did not die without be vaccinated.
What suzy_q2010 said. I have four great aunts and uncles I never met d/t this diphtheria epidemic. You have no idea if everyone alive today has direct ancestors who did not die w/o beING vaccinated. They could have died after they procreated!
 
Old 01-09-2015, 06:58 AM
 
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I was just on another site where they were talking about this flu "epidemic". Most were really blasting people who choose not to get the flu shot.

Interesting part of those saying they were not getting a flu shot? Comments. I haven't gotten the flu since 1968. Last time I had it was in 1970s. Same time frame for those saying the same.

Do you see the pattern? It was all OLD people who haven't had the flu shot or flu. Just luck? The most common slogan we hear is that you will be killing babies and OLD PEOPLE, who have weakened immune systems. Oh, herd immunity is our protection? Since the 1960s and 1970s for flu shots?????? lol What flu shots back then?

Pat answer. It is just luck for 30 years! It will be YOU next. Find another line. One 70 year old man said, "At the rate I am going, I will be dead from old age before I get the flu".
 
Old 01-09-2015, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Did your great-grandma die before she was old enough to have children at all? Did you grandma or grandma die before they had your parents? Did your parents die before they had you?

Do you UND3RSTAND what I am saying????? It is not we are all going to DIE without these vax. Obviously, everyone alive today hasDIRECT ancestors who did not die without be vaccinated.
Fascinating logic.

What percentage of the population do you consider acceptable as far as losses?

Fifty million died during the Spanish Flu epidemic.

Was this okay because not everyone died?
 
Old 01-09-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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I was just on another site where they were talking about this flu "epidemic". Most were really blasting people who choose not to get the flu shot.

Interesting part of those saying they were not getting a flu shot? Comments. I haven't gotten the flu since 1968. Last time I had it was in 1970s. Same time frame for those saying the same.

Do you see the pattern? It was all OLD people who haven't had the flu shot or flu. Just luck? The most common slogan we hear is that you will be killing babies and OLD PEOPLE, who have weakened immune systems. Oh, herd immunity is our protection? Since the 1960s and 1970s for flu shots?????? lol What flu shots back then?

Pat answer. It is just luck for 30 years! It will be YOU next. Find another line. One 70 year old man said, "At the rate I am going, I will be dead from old age before I get the flu".
Every year it's the same people I know who come down with the flu These are the same people who get the vaccine year after year.
 
Old 01-09-2015, 09:01 AM
 
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"Dr. William Thompson used to work for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in the US. The CDC recommends an annual flu vaccine for everyone 6 months and older, but Dr Thompson admits he would never give his pregnant wife a flu shot because many contain thimerosal, a mercury-containing adjuvant that he warns can be linked to toxic effects and “autism-like-features.”

Read more: Epidemiologist for CDC Says he Would 'NEVER Give his Pregnant Wife' a Flu Shot | Natural Society
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