Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Not old way. Upward mobility still exists.with effort.
My 3 college educated nieces and nephews would happily tip that waiter, as would my college educated many godchildren. All are doing extremely well, with a few of them earning in the hundreds of thousands annually before age 30.
NONE have their own business, but several are solicited for new high-paying jobs regularly.
In the year 2015 maybe about 25% of all jobs pay at a rate that allows full time workers to get government benefits. Even if the current people who are working in these jobs get training and move out of the low wage workplace someone else will take their place. So the argument that low wage workers just need to get more skills and education to move up does not really help the situation. Face it, no matter who is working in these jobs at any time, a large number of jobs in America pay under $10 an hour. And these are the jobs that are growing in today's economy. If you want a job, these are the jobs the typical American can get. And they are not jobs for kids and senior citizens anymore. Lots of the folks working at McDonalds are bring up a family on that job's income.
So, who should pay for the government benefits for the 25% of households whose primary bread winner is making $8 an hour or less than $20K a year?
Is it the responsibility of the employers of low wage labor? Or every taxpayer? Or should we just eliminate things like Food Stamps, reduced lunches at school, Medicaid, government paid housing, etc. for people who work?
Remember, someone is going to be doing these low wage jobs regardless of the hopes and dreams of people in them today.
conservatives believe these low-wage employers should be rewarded for employing peope who otherwise would be homeless.
Not old way. Upward mobility still exists.with effort.
My 3 college educated nieces and nephews would happily tip that waiter, as would my college educated many godchildren. All are doing extremely well, with a few of them earning in the hundreds of thousands annually before age 30.
NONE have their own business, but several are solicited for new high-paying jobs regularly.
If I stay in my menial job long enough (until my boss retires in 20 years) I might be promoted to manager and make $20K instead of minimum wage.
How many of your neices and nephews paid for their education?
All but one of them paid for their own education and/or are paying their own loans. He was #1 in his class, and received rocking scholarships. 1 godson got scholarships for his BA, but paid for his own MBA.
freemkt"And how pray tell might they improve themselves?"
Education and training via loans, scholarships, grants. Some states have lottery scholarships now. In Tn, a 2.75 GPA gets the first 2 years of college paid by the state.
It is the responsibility of the citizen to improve themselves, in order to become self-sufficient.
Truthfully, food stamp use should be limited to 26 weeks, just as unemployment insurance is. The same should be true of every social welfare program.
The McJobs are perfect for 16 year olds with acne needing date money, but when I see a 40 something at one, I ask why they lack the skills and motivation to have gotten past these jobs. That is not the employer's fault.
I have had zero desire to manage minimum wage workers ever since I worked literally flipping burgers. But I have no marketable job skills and no money to go back to school to get those skills.
freemkt"And how pray tell might they improve themselves?"
Education and training via loans, scholarships, grants. Some states have lottery scholarships now. In Tn, a 2.75 GPA gets the first 2 years of college paid by the state.
What scholarships? My grades were in the top 3 percent of my class and my SAT scores were in the top 3 percent nationally. The only scholarship I got was a New York State scholarship (similar to scholarships offered by many states) good for a whopping $100 per year for books.
Now I cannot afford education and training at all.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.