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Old 02-10-2015, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by ColdAilment View Post
Just look at the ruckus legalizing gay marriage in Alabama has caused. You have a state judge ordering people to disobey the federal ruling and NOT give out marriage certificates.
That's called states rights. Ever hear of it?

 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Who said anything about Christians? I certainly didn't. SSM isn't an equal rights issue, IMO. Otherwise under the guise of equal rights whether you are a minority or not you could claim equal rights for any bizarre thing you desire. It could get ridiculous after awhile.
Well, too bad because so far there are 25+ judges that disagree with your understanding of the constitutional issue.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:02 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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Who said anything about Christians? I certainly didn't. SSM isn't an equal rights issue, IMO. Otherwise under the guise of equal rights whether you are a minority or not you could claim equal rights for any bizarre thing you desire. It could get ridiculous after awhile.
Yes, if the bizarre thing is offered to others, then equal rights means that you get them too. How this is not an equal rights issue is beyond me. When you are not allowing men to marry men, you are discriminating on the basis of their sex, dictating that only *women* can marry men. The opposite is true for women - in that if you do not allow women to marry women, you care discriminating on the right of a female to marry a female.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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That's called states rights. Ever hear of it?
States do not have the right to violate the constitution. 14th amendment, ever hear of it?
 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by GABESTA535 View Post
Does the South always have to be the last area of the country to achieve social progress and be forced by the federal government to adapt these changes despite the opposition from its conservative politicians. From integration to education to gay rights it always seems like the South lags far behind the rest of the country. Will it always be this way or will the federal government always have to drag it kicking and screaming into the modern era?

And for those who say I don't understand the South I lived in North Carolina from age 6 to age 26.
Government has a small defined role. Quit using force to push your BS on others.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:05 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
That's called states rights. Ever hear of it?
For the 90th time, the 14th amendment of the constitution bars states from legally discriminating against people on the basis of *fill in the blank* ... The fill in the blank part in this instance is sex ... and sex is a protected class from discrimination as per the Civil Rights Act.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Texas
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States do not have the right to violate the constitution. 14th amendment, ever hear of it?
Staes do not have a right to violate others rights. Ever hear of the rights of the individual. Who am I kidding, you don't know what a right is.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Riding the light...
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Originally Posted by GABESTA535 View Post
Does the South always have to be the last area of the country to achieve social progress and be forced by the federal government to adapt these changes despite the opposition from its conservative politicians. From integration to education to gay rights it always seems like the South lags far behind the rest of the country. Will it always be this way or will the federal government always have to drag it kicking and screaming into the modern era?

And for those who say I don't understand the South I lived in North Carolina from age 6 to age 26.
No. For some, secession would be preferred to the imposition of liberal state ideology. Short of secession, nullification is the next best tool... even better than the current Administration.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:07 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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Staes do not have a right to violate others rights. Ever hear of the rights of the individual. Who am I kidding, you don't know what a right is.
You aren't kidding anybody. I don't think anybody buys that. If they do, they do not understand the constitution, its standing in law, or the process in which the states can change the constitution.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Well, too bad because so far there are 25+ judges that disagree with your understanding of the constitutional issue.
Where in the constitution does it give Congress the power to say who can and cannot get married? No one has a right to get married. They have a right to live their free and unencumbered as long as they do not step on the rights of others. Like I said you don't know what a right is so how can you know what is or isn't constitutional? Because someone said? Like prohibition or Jim Crow?
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