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Old 02-10-2015, 04:51 PM
 
Location: North America
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Originally Posted by Oldglory View Post
Well, good luck with that. Most Americans are opposed to this twisting of the Constitution.
Nope sorry, most Americans support it .

 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
Try building an argument. You said, and I quote: "No one gets their rights because they are married."
I pointed out that spousal privilege is a right under the law.
Try thinking clearly. I'll say it again in hopes you'll finally get it. What was the reason. hint self incrimination. you won't understand that either. AND it has nothing to do with a a right to marriage.

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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
You have two options:
  • Argue that spousal privilege isn't a right, or
  • Argue that spousal privilege doesn't require you to be married.

Which is it?

In English?
Those aren't my options and more importantly have nothing to do with the false belief that marriage is a right. You're posts have gone off the deep end in your quest to be right instead of seeking the truth.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
It's the same thought process. If dense was a country, you'd be China.

Banning someone from marriage as well as forcing someone to accept it are equally bad. That's what you don't get.
NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO ACCEPT SSM.

Period. you can shove your finger in your ears and chant that gays are evil all you want. No one cares.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:52 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
Banning someone from marriage as well as forcing someone to accept it are equally bad.
That argument can be leveled against any expansion of rights. Ending segregation forced business owners to accept black people in their restaurants. So what?
 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:52 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jjrose View Post
Discrimination based on race = discrimination based on sex.

Marriage is a man made concept, it doesn't exist in nature.
That's like saying my rights are being violated if I don't get to do everythiing I want to. Please.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by Oldglory View Post
Well, good luck with that. Most Americans are opposed to this twisting of the Constitution.
Most Americans won't be ruling on the case, the supreme court will. And the supreme court precedence says that the 14th applies to marriage.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:53 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
Try thinking clearly. I'll say it again in hopes you'll finally get it. What was the reason. hint self incrimination. you won't understand that either. AND it has nothing to do with a a right to marriage.

Those aren't my options and more importantly have nothing to do with the false belief that marriage is a right. You're posts have gone off the deep end in your quest to be right instead of seeking the truth.
Right, self incrimination - which is what married people are protected against as per contract law.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:53 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
Try thinking clearly. I'll say it again in hopes you'll finally get it. What was the reason. hint self incrimination. you won't understand that either. AND it has nothing to do with a a right to marriage.

Those aren't my options and more importantly have nothing to do with the false belief that marriage is a right. You're posts have gone off the deep end in your quest to be right instead of seeking the truth.
So, no reasoned argument? Disappointed

Married couples enjoy a lot of legal rights denied to unmarried couples. Yes, there are rights that come from marriage. Making the statement "No one gets their rights because they are married" nonsensical.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Oldglory View Post
Don't know but you cannot compare the discriminations above to SSM. It never was right to ban marriage between a man and a woman regardless of their race because marriage is identified as being between a man and a woman. All Americans as citizens should have had the right to vote. Since when has "traditional" marriage ever been about same sex couples and why should it be? One can still have every right afforded to them in a civil union as in a traditional marriage between a man and a woman. Marriage itself should not be re-defined, IMO. It's against the laws of nature for one thing.
If samesex marriages want to call it a marriage instead of a civil union let them. IMO civil union is a degrading use of the term in place of marriage. As if anyone owns marriage.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
So, no reasoned argument? Disappointed
Still avoiding the question. Laughable you were the one who brought it up but dont know the reason why. The reason always matters.
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