Conservative media and voter backlash and anger against the Democratic Party and Obama "media revenge"? (polls, accuse)

[nvxplorer]

Originally Posted by sxrckr

This is the other thing the cultists do: try to insult intelligence and knowledge.
Why not throw in the race card while you're at it?
It's hopeless...

You racist genius, you.

[natalie469]

Originally Posted by Repubocrat

Dream on, my friend. You Libs are so delusional. If you look at all the programs and ideas Obama has tried to implement, they have been mostly failures. We could start with Cash for Clunkers, Operation Fast and Furious, Ben Ghazi, the IRS targetting Conservatives scandal and the list goes on and on. I don't remember Bush being involved in so many failures and scandals

The Iraq war was a major failure and hurt our military deeply.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by sxrckr

^Opinion pieces and biased sources claiming "phony" scandal. Like I said, a mindless cult following who thinks he can do no wrong. Imagine if Nixon had that... shutter to think.

You are arguing that something is biased while you yourself are operating under your own biased opinion.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by Repubocrat

Dream on, my friend. You Libs are so delusional. If you look at all the programs and ideas Obama has tried to implement, they have been mostly failures. We could start with Cash for Clunkers, Operation Fast and Furious, Ben Ghazi, the IRS targetting Conservatives scandal and the list goes on and on. I don't remember Bush being involved in so many failures and scandals

the fact that you are even including cash for clunkers shows your limited range of an argument.

Cash for Clunkers didnt fail, it was a rebate program. A rebate program cant fail. either you used it or you dont. the very idea of it is to give people money with the stipulation that they use it to buy a new car. If they dont by the car, then they dont get the money.

Did you people even know what Cash for Clunkers was ?????

As for President Bush's many failures, you have

1.Hurricane Katrina Response( ill go ahead and say the entirety of Hurricane responses in 2004 and 2005)

2. No Child Left behind

3. Valerie Plame leak/Scooter Libby

4.Abu Ghraib

5. the Invasion into Iraq based on false information

6. Actual warrantless wiretapping

7.12 billion Iraq reconstruction money missing/ 1.8 Billion more missing from Halliberton US contract.

8. The DC Madam, 5 Bush administration employs resigned,multiple more admitted to using her services

9.Lurita Doan violating the Hatch act and trying to us government influence to elect republicans.

10. Walter Reed Scandal

11. Sec of HUD resignation after showing political favoritism for contracts.

12.LawyerGate, which included Bush firing 12 Republican Attorneys that he had appointed, because of political bias in prosecution. many others resigned before he could fire them or chose to step down on the presidents time table.

13. President Bush paying commentators, columnist, and reporters to view his policies positively

14. Jack Abramoff

15. wiping computers in a majority of the above incidents



i could keep going ? We didnt even get to the Attorney general scandal under Bush.

[Egbert]

Originally Posted by theunbrainwashed

Does anyone think this is just "payback" after the intense beating Bush got from almost the entire press during his presidency? I almost feel like it is. Obama is nowhere near as terrible as Bush was. The national security state was founded under Bush's watch, not Obama's, but conservatives act like Obama is the plague when there is no justification. That's why I have a feeling all the media backlash against Obama is just, for lack of a better word, "revenge" for all the 24/7 negative reporting during the Bush and GOP majority years.

When a Democrat is elected to the White House next year, will we see the same mass conservative outrage, or if a Republican is elected, will we again see the mass liberal outrage?

Nope, its not payback and I think we will see that same thing if there is a Democrat elected. While slightly less virulent, I remember Republicans did the same exact thing to Clinton they are doing to Obama.

IMHO there is one thing that pisses off the right in America more then anything and that is a Democrat who beats them in presidential elections consistently despite their best efforts.

[nvxplorer]

Originally Posted by Egbert

Nope, its not payback and I think we will see that same thing. While slightly less virulent, Republicans did the same exact thing to Clinton they are doing to Obama.

That was my impression.

IMHO their is one thing that pisses off the right in America more then anything and that is a Democrat who beats them in presidential elections consistently despite their best efforts.

Partisan politics has always been with us, but I don't remember such vitriol against Carter.

[Egbert]

Originally Posted by nvxplorer

Partisan politics has always been with us, but I don't remember such vitriol against Carter.

I think that was because they could beat Carter and they knew it. That wasn't the case with Clinton or Obama. Thus my favorite part of the state of the Union.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkYZFoW5NK8

[sxrckr]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

You are arguing that something is biased while you yourself are operating under your own biased opinion.

No one is completely without bias.
But I think it's important to keep an open mind and not take sides.
There's no denying however that Obama came almost from nowhere up behind someone (Clinton) who everyone thought would be the nominee, and has had a loyal, cult-like following of those who believe he can do no wrong no matter what happens. This is something the previous few presidents didn't have to nearly the same extent, thankfully. To deny this means one is not paying attention.

[WestCobb]

Originally Posted by theunbrainwashed

Does anyone think this is just "payback" after the intense beating Bush got from almost the entire press during his presidency? I almost feel like it is. Obama is nowhere near as terrible as Bush was. The national security state was founded under Bush's watch, not Obama's, but conservatives act like Obama is the plague when there is no justification. That's why I have a feeling all the media backlash against Obama is just, for lack of a better word, "revenge" for all the 24/7 negative reporting during the Bush and GOP majority years.

When a Democrat is elected to the White House next year, will we see the same mass conservative outrage, or if a Republican is elected, will we again see the mass liberal outrage?

There's truth to what you're saying, but the right wing went full loon on Clinton too -- even though now in retrospect many of them will admit his policies weren't that bad. I think conservatives flip out whenever they don't occupy the White House. Yes, the vitriol directed at Bush was over the top, but I think it was deserved because he was so horrifically bad. I'd like to see how the media will cover a run of the mill, competent Republican administration.

[sxrckr]

Originally Posted by WestCobb

I think conservatives flip out whenever they don't occupy the White House. Yes, the vitriol directed at Bush was over the top, but I think it was deserved because he was so horrifically bad.

Speaking of bias, great example. Bush deserved it!
SMH...