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Old 02-18-2015, 12:45 PM
 
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Old 02-18-2015, 12:52 PM
 
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" their population"
Most Muslim majority countries do not condone stoning. Saudi Arabia, long time US ally, permits stoning. Go figure, eh.
The only scripture that orders stonings is the Torah. In Islam, stoning only appears in the “hadiths,” which have always been contested by Muslims for their authenticity. It's most likely that stonings were just a tradition Muslims incorporated over time.

There have only been two known stonings in the entire six centuries of the Ottoman Empire, dating back to 1299. Amputations of the hands for theft were also made obsolete in the 15th century and replaced by beatings or monetary fines based on the culprit's economic status. There were various methods of capital punishment, usually copied from the West, but the typical sentence was by hanging, just as in the US. Contrary to what many Islamic fundamentalists and critics of Islam will say, there has always been a figurative method of interpretation (as opposed to the literal interpretation) that focuses on the intent of the scripture based on the context.

France's last official beheading was in 1977.

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Old 02-18-2015, 01:21 PM
 
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" their population"

Who is them?

The majority of Muslim women in the world do not wear the burka. Nor do they require a male guardian to leave their home.

The Haredi in Israel, an Ultra- Orthadox Jewish sect , wear the burka.

Most Muslim majority countries do not condone stoning. Saudi Arabia, long time US ally, permits stoning. Go figure, eh.
Let's see here, there are just over 2 billion Christians in the world ( The Size and Distribution of the World ---- Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) and 1.5 billion Muslims ( Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ).

Want to guess the number of people killed by each in the last 20 years? (Yes, I know you desperately want to go back 1,000 years or more, but we're keeping this in the modern times for relevance sake).

I'm sorry if this offends you, for whatever reason, but when talking about the percentage of radical and violent extremists in Christianity and Islam in modern times, it is quite clear that Islam's is much greater.
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Old 02-18-2015, 01:39 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Let's see here, there are just over 2 billion Christians in the world ( The Size and Distribution of the World ---- Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) and 1.5 billion Muslims ( Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ).

Want to guess the number of people killed by each in the last 20 years? (Yes, I know you desperately want to go back 1,000 years or more, but we're keeping this in the modern times for relevance sake).

I'm sorry if this offends you, for whatever reason, but when talking about the percentage of radical and violent extremists in Christianity and Islam in modern times, it is quite clear that Islam's is much greater.
Don't need to go back anywhere NEAR 1,000 years. A WHOLE LOT less than a Century will do.
How many Europeans killed other Europeans in WWII?
How many in WWI?

The answer is "a hell of a lot more Muslims killed each other over that time".
The fact is, when it comes to killing, NO ONE is as good at it as Europeans are.
We have killed 100,000 or so with a single "push of a button" and could kill MILLION with that today.
Just because we impersonalize it and sanitize it doesn't make it any less violent.

Ken
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Old 02-18-2015, 05:55 PM
 
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....Do most Jewish women wear a wig? ...
Why paint all by the actions of some?
Not even some. Only the few who are Ultra Orthodox and are married.

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Guess you have never been to Ultra Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods in Brooklyn. The Modesty Police are alive and well.
Only for their own.

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The Haredi in Israel, an Ultra-Orthodox Jewish sect , wear the burka.
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No they don't.
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Old 02-18-2015, 08:22 PM
 
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Do most Muslim women wear the burka?

Do most Jewish women wear a wig?

Do most Christian women avoid wearing pants?

Why paint all by the actions of some?
Probably because your use of the word "some" is stretched beyond it's definition like size 4 yoga pants on Howard Wallowitz's mother.

Example: Pot smokers, Nazi's, Hollywood Actors why paint all by the actions of some?
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Old 02-18-2015, 08:25 PM
 
Location: The Dirty South.
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God please stop the turmoil in the middle east. Enough innocent children have already died.
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Old 02-18-2015, 08:38 PM
 
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God please stop the turmoil in the middle east. Enough innocent children have already died.
You said it.
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Old 02-19-2015, 08:06 AM
 
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Don't need to go back anywhere NEAR 1,000 years. A WHOLE LOT less than a Century will do.
How many Europeans killed other Europeans in WWII?
How many in WWI?

The answer is "a hell of a lot more Muslims killed each other over that time".
The fact is, when it comes to killing, NO ONE is as good at it as Europeans are.
We have killed 100,000 or so with a single "push of a button" and could kill MILLION with that today.
Just because we impersonalize it and sanitize it doesn't make it any less violent.

Ken
I'm not talking about regions, I'm talking about religion.

Was Stalin a Christian?

With all of the thousands of pictures taken of Hitler, can you show me 3 of him in church?

Were the Japanese Christian?

What does the IS stand for? I'll fill you in - Islamic State.
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Old 02-19-2015, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Let's see here, there are just over 2 billion Christians in the world ( The Size and Distribution of the World ---- Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) and 1.5 billion Muslims ( Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ).

Want to guess the number of people killed by each in the last 20 years? (Yes, I know you desperately want to go back 1,000 years or more, but we're keeping this in the modern times for relevance sake).

I'm sorry if this offends you, for whatever reason, but when talking about the percentage of radical and violent extremists in Christianity and Islam in modern times, it is quite clear that Islam's is much greater.
I take no offence.

The Americas, substantially Christian countries, lead the world on murder rates.

By country, South Africa, a substantially Christian country, is the world's most murderous place.

The difference is that these murders are not done in the name of God and no one is using social media to recruit and boast. An yet, people who profess to be Christian manage to kill a heck of a lot of people.

There's a terrorist group in Africa, The Lord's Resistance Army, a self defined Protestant sect, led by a lunatic. They make ISIS look like a bunch of pansies.
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