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Well Obama's wife DID say "For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country."
That should have raised red flags immediately.
African-Americans have been enslaved, forced to fight in irrelevant wars that did not loosen the chains of discrimination after returning home. Even after patriotically fighting for this country, they returned to an America that beat and lynched them. They were hostility received by their fellow white citizenry after the Civil War, WWI, WWII, the Korean War, the Viet Nam War, and the continuing wars of Iraq and Afghanistan...
Many African-Americans have relatives who were either lynched in the south or brutalized in the north. Practically all African-Americans have relatives who have suffered great loss due to racial discrimination.
In most cases, African-Americans continue to suffer the residual psychological effects of slavery. From self-esteem problems related to physical appearance to the belief that somehow they are intellectually inferior to whites.
In short, African-Americans have been through hell here in America, and while conditions once appeared to be improving, dark days seem to await them with the current administration presiding.
Perhaps what Ms. Michelle Obama meant when she exclaimed that she was proud for the first time
when her husband was elected president, she most inevitably felt a level of pride she had never quite experienced before!
Giuliani, now working as a shyster mouthpiece for the most nefarious crime mob in our history, should be the one questioned about his love for our country.
Giuliani, now working as a shyster mouthpiece for the most nefarious crime mob in our history, should be the one questioned about his love for our country.
Ghoul-iani is no stranger to criminals. Ad he regularly comes to their defense...and then might throw them under the bus...what a POS!
More than six years ago, about three (3) months after his inauguration, I expressed serious doubts that President Obama loves his country, in a posting I made. I will make that post available by PM on request so no one can say I'm a Monday morning quarterback. Unfortunately, events have borne me out. He does not seem to believe that his country is much greater than the tinpot despotisms that infest the world. In fact, he seems to be doing everything in his power to hobble his own country.
Apparently, former New York City mayor Rudolph Giuliani agrees with me (link to article), excerpts below:
“I do not believe, and I know this is a horrible thing to say, but I do not believe that the president loves America,” Giuliani said Wednesday during a private group dinner in Manhattan, Politico reports. “He doesn’t love you. And he doesn’t love me. He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up through love of this country.”
Later he qualified his remarks:
Well, first of all, I’m not questioning his patriotism. He’s a patriot, I’m sure,” Giuliani said. “What I’m saying is, in his rhetoric I very rarely hear the things that I used to hear Ronald Reagan say, the things that I used to hear Bill Clinton say about how much he loves America. ... I do hear him criticize America much more often than other American presidents. And when it’s not in the context of an overwhelming number of statements about the exceptionalism of America, it sounds like he’s more of a critic than he is a supporter.”
Many right-wingers (of which I am not one) are sidetracked on "birther" arguments, that Obama is not a natural born American. I fully accept that he was born here and is constitutionally qualified to sit as President. What I have, over the last few years, had my doubts about is whether he is primarily an advocate for the United States, as his oath of office implicitly requires, or if his sees himself as a "world leader". Unfortunately, I think the latter. Obama was primarily raised in Indonesia and Kenya and did not learn in his formative years an American perspective.
I think the U.S.'s greatness is measured by the level of opportunity it affords to those that have little but brains. I think it is a great country based upon the fact that whenever there's a natural disaster anywhere, the U.S. is there.
Such a moment of startling honesty came recently when Obama delivered what the mainstream media laughingly described as a "response" to Rep. Paul Ryan's common sense budget. What the speech really amounted to, of course, was simply a tired partisan kick-off of his 2012 re-election campaign. In it, Obama again stated his contempt for the nation that has given him so much. Consider this excerpt:
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Obama's first duty is to be an advocate for and promoter of the U.S. He is neither. He is, at best, a citizen of the world. At worst, he adheres to the U.S.'s enemies, giving them comfort, it not aid.
A lot of people are upset that Trump doesn't pay obeisance to "all the leaders, err, people, of the world." He sees the tin cup being shaken and it's not the people, it's the leaders with their Swiss bank accounts.
When discussing the evit things Putin has done Trump.o said "Well the United States had done some really bad things also". How is that "advocating for america"? Sounds like a criticism to me.
With Trumps dealings, the Fawning and obsession with Putin can’t be ignored. Never seen a guy so obsessed with money and power as Trump and Giuliani. Giuliani wants so badly to be relevant again. He never gets enough of the camera, this is encouraging this idiot to talk so much about nothing.
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Samuel Johnson correctly described Giuliani in 1775: "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"
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