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Old 02-23-2015, 10:25 PM
 
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You sound as though what I said and what you just said are mutually exclusive.
And on top of that, I've explained why.

 
Old 02-23-2015, 10:43 PM
 
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And on top of that, I've explained why.
???

You've explained how maintaining the ethical integrity of the medical profession will prevent this baby from receiving quality medical care?
 
Old 02-24-2015, 01:37 AM
 
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???

You've explained how maintaining the ethical integrity of the medical profession will prevent this baby from receiving quality medical care?
Yes, I explained it in real life as opposed to some theory.

The Dr. Lies and simply says she is not accepting patients. Did we gain anything?

She is forced to accept the patient. Would you want her caring for your kid?

Those are the options if we pass a law. She can freely speak her mind now because its legal to. A law doesn't mean she changed.
 
Old 02-24-2015, 02:54 AM
 
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Point to any respectable poll that says I'm wrong. Go ahead. The anti gay crowd is the minority in this country and there is no statistical evidence that says otherwise.

This month, two new polls on gay marriage, both have support now at 60% or better (CBS-60%, CNN-63%). Princeton's PRRI has more than 70% in favor of anti-discrimination laws protecting gay and lesbian people. ABC News/Washington Post has 81% saying that discrimination against gays and lesbians by private businesses should be illegal.





81% of Americans polled disagree with you.

What it actually is, is a minority of Bible-thumping wackos who both don't believe in the rule of law and mistakenly believe that a business (which operates within the confines of the law and doesn't even legitimately exist in the eyes of the law if it does not meet certain criteria) = a person.

A person is entitled to think whatever they want about anything they want.

A business must obey anti-discrimination laws.

What's most amazing about this is you seem to be in genuine shock as if this ground wasn't already tread over during the Civil Rights Era. In case you don't know, this has been tried already when Southern businesses tried to say their closely held religious convictions allowed them to discriminate against black people. The courts didn't buy it 50 years, they're not gonna buy it now, there's already legal precedent shooting this idea down.
I agree with you, Chef, it was then & still is a Lost Cause.
 
Old 02-24-2015, 03:03 AM
 
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???

You've explained how maintaining the ethical integrity of the medical profession will prevent this baby from receiving quality medical care?
I agree with you hammertime, the 'explanation' was framed using weasel words:

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A weasel word (also, anonymous authority) is an informal term for words and phrases aimed at creating an impression that a specific and/or meaningful statement has been made, when only a vague or ambiguous claim has been communicated, enabling the specific meaning to be denied if the statement is challenged.
Weasel word - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The more formal term is equivocation.

Apparently, it's the only way certain ideologues can stubbornly keep to their absolutist axioms while professing to be living in the real world.
 
Old 02-24-2015, 03:11 AM
 
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And yet.....you've provided nothing to counter those words.
 
Old 02-24-2015, 03:21 AM
 
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Sorry, but that asshat doesn't need to be a doctor.

Sure, he prayed about it, then did exactly the OPPOSITE of what Jesus would do.
There's quite a good bit in the Bible about following the 'letter of the law' versus following the 'spirit of the law.' Like this part:

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Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen and understand. What goes into a man’s mouth does not make him ‘unclean,’ but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him ‘unclean.’”
 
Old 02-24-2015, 03:24 AM
 
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And yet.....you've provided nothing to counter those words.
Why beat a dead horse?
 
Old 02-24-2015, 03:34 AM
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Such publicity gives the impression that gays are a litigious group.
Only among those people who are looking for a lame rationalization for self-centered discrimination against gays.
 
Old 02-24-2015, 03:34 AM
 
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Why beat a dead horse?
Because its alive.

We are far better off with a truthful and free society even when it may be ugly than we are by going down the road of the thought police.
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