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Old 02-22-2015, 07:56 AM
 
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I want to know why the people who are "disgusted" by this type of thing seem to know all about them?

I'm homosexual and have never heard about this event. Do you guys spend hours looking up stuff on the internet to be "disgusted" by?
If I find something disgusting, I don;t go looking for it, or googling it. I simply ignore it.
She's referring to the Folsom Street Fair in San Francisco. It's a leather event attended by leather fetishists and lot's of people who just want to dress up for the day (both heterosexual and homosexual). There's a rabidly anti-gay website run by a "Christian" - Porno Pete LaBarbera with lot's of carefully selected pictures on it. Apparently he visits the fair every year to uh... take pictures for his website and likes to pretend it is only a homosexual event. I'm sure the poster loves to visit Porno Pete's website and read all the anti-gay propaganda as well as look at Pete's prized collection of semi-porn leather fetishist pictures which he promotes as representing all gay and lesbian people. The only reason I had heard about it was from a "Christian" poster who posted a link to it.

By the way, it's no coincidence that the highest rates of downloading internet porn is in the Bible Belt. (Except for several hours on Sundays)

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Old 02-22-2015, 08:01 AM
 
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But the doctor CHOSE to see the patient by setting an appointment time to see the patient. If the doctor did not want to see the patient why did she set the appointment?
OK already. The doc had 2nd thoughts, through prayer or flipping a coin, whatever. She didn't let the baby die or do an exorcism or pray the gay away ceremony on the parents. She should have called the women herself. So ?
 
Old 02-22-2015, 08:11 AM
 
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Four milky ways?

How do you think that makes Mars feel?
 
Old 02-22-2015, 08:52 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Sickening that a doctor would refuse to care for a child like this. I understand that under the draconic state law she is protected, but she should lose her license for failing to live up to her hypocratic oath. In her case hyporcritic oath.
I'll go with this^^… Something I don't understand about the medical profession, is how many doctors violate the Oath, the first rule of which is:"First..do no harm". I dissolved a relationship with a GP, last year, I had for 20 years, because of an attitude of not caring about harm done. His refusal to help me landed me in the hospital for two months. Because be had "personal issues".

Medicine is not about the doctors feelings. Its about helping those who need care. I can care less about some"physicians" moral cunundrum about a patients personal life. Meat headed $41t sacks, like that, should not be in medicine.
 
Old 02-22-2015, 08:57 AM
 
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*** Facts

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One study reports that the average gay man has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime.

78% of gay men are affected by STDs (20).

41% of gay men say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8).
The homosexual lifestyle is far from wholesome.
 
Old 02-22-2015, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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*** Facts



The homosexual lifestyle is far from wholesome.
That is a site you are going to use?

Seriously?

Not to mention this was a LESBIAN couple. Lesbians have lower rates of STD transmission that heterosexuals.
 
Old 02-22-2015, 09:03 AM
 
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*** Facts

The homosexual lifestyle is far from wholesome.
Really, your source is a 15 year old website called F*g Facts that was created by this guy:

 
Old 02-22-2015, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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This is scary stuff, I assume you are exaggerating

Of course I am not going to condone your screaming like hitler from the rooftops and going to the press dictating a specific Doctor accept your Jewish Child into their practice. Nor would I dictate like Hitler screaming from the rooftops and going to the press about your Jewish Child not accepting a Muslim Doctor (but accepting a Jewish Doctor in his place)

This is NOT Nazi Germany.

We DO NOT teach our children such animalistic inhumane tactics to get our own way. Nor promote this hate be done to children because of their religion as the deciding factor of who they choose as their physician..
Nor use infants as pawns for $$schemes$$ to exploit them in the media.
Have you never heard the expression "shouting from the rooftops"? Is English not your first language?

No, I would not haul a ladder out to climb to the top of my apartment building and shout into my residential neighborhood. But I would absolutely go to the Jewish press so that others would be able to make an informed decision when choosing a doctor, which certainly would result in more large-scale coverage.

They say character is what someone does when no one is looking. Well, in today's world, you have to assume that EVERYONE is looking because in an instant, your actions and words could go viral. This doctor seems to be standing by her conscious, as demonstrated by the passive aggressive letter that she sent months after the fact. That's fine. The rest of us will stand by ours and rightfully alert possible patients of her moral standings. Even though I am straight, I would be very concerned sending my child to a pediatrician who is so horrified by homosexuality that she cannot treat the child of homosexuals. How could she possibly treat my child if he or she was questioning their sexuality at 13? She couldn't.

The first one to bring up Hitler in an argument loses. ESPECIALLY if that argument is that it would be wrong for a Christian (or Muslim or Hindu or atheist) doctor to refuse Jewish patients on the basis of religion.

Dr. Roi, is that you?
 
Old 02-22-2015, 09:12 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Sickening that a doctor would refuse to care for a child like this. I understand that under the draconic state law she is protected, but she should lose her license for failing to live up to her hypocratic oath. In her case hyporcritic oath.
I agree with most of the sentiment of your post. Except, I would rather know that this is what this doctor is all about, as opposed to having her accept the patient while hiding her bias and scorn towards the parents. The baby is much better off this way. She will probably get much better care somewhere else. Plus, it allows others in the community the opportunity to avoid this doctor. I know I would, and I am a heterosexual. Plus, I don't think that is the correct use of "draconian", but thats another story.

Being a doctor myself, compassion is one of several motivations that make me want to give the best care possible to my patients. I cannot fathom how a doctor has an attitude and complete lack of compassion like this one does, but as long as she does, I want to know about it and avoid her. Compassion is particularly important in a pediatrician, because infants and toddlers are often hysterical and uncooperative when at the doctor's office. As I said earlier, this family dodged a bullet here.
 
Old 02-22-2015, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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I agree with most of the sentiment of your post. Except, I would rather know that this is what this doctor is all about, as opposed to having her accept the patient while hiding her bias and scorn towards the parents. The baby is much better off this way. She will probably get much better care somewhere else. Plus, it allows others in the community the opportunity to avoid this doctor. I know I would, and I am a heterosexual. Plus, I don't think that is the correct use of "draconian", but thats another story.

Being a doctor myself, compassion is one of several motivations that make me want to give the best care possible to my patients. I cannot fathom how a doctor has an attitude and complete lack of compassion, like this one does, but as long as she does, I want to know about it and avoid her. Compassion is particularly important in a pediatrician, because infants and toddlers are often hysterical and uncooperative when at the doctor's office. As I said earlier, this family dodged a bullet here.
Bingo. And this post perfectly captures the reason why someone who has faced discrimination would go to the press with no motivation for financial gain: it allows others to become well informed.

Obviously this doctor was not known to be one who would hold these kinds of views if midwives are referring lesbian families to her.
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