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Old 03-02-2015, 11:11 AM
 
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Thank God we don't live in a democracy.

Personally I find the entire homosexual thing a disgusting perversion. Makes me want to vomit and for that I guess I am a bigot?
If you therefore want to deny gay people equal treatment under the law, then that would make you a bigot.

 
Old 03-02-2015, 11:12 AM
 
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It must not be there as a right, if you have to ask permission....
I do not have to ask for a privilege from any government, to get my rights back.
The 14th Amendment doesn't protect rights because you have to ask for permission?

What???????
 
Old 03-02-2015, 11:16 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The 14th Amendment doesn't protect rights because you have to ask for permission?

What???????


Amendment XIV

Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Section 2.

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.
Section 3.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Section 4.

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
Section 5.

The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.








I don't see the right to marriage anywhere in there. Please point out where the constitution decrees marriage is a god given right. The word marriage is no where to be found.

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Old 03-02-2015, 11:16 AM
 
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If you therefore want to deny gay people equal treatment under the law, then that would make you a bigot.
You do realize that life is not 100% completely fair and equal for anyone, right? I can't get into some prestigious colleges without being endorsed by a senator, for example. Apparently, a gay person only has to say they are gay to get access to anything they want including forcing themselves into Christian organizations. Equal rights shouldn't mean equality in everything.
 
Old 03-02-2015, 11:18 AM
 
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You do realize that life is not 100% completely fair and equal for anyone, right? I can't get into some prestigious colleges without being endorsed by a senator, for example. Apparently, a gay person only has to say they are gay to get access to anything they want including forcing themselves into Christian organizations. Equal rights shouldn't mean equality in everything.
Forcing themselves into Christian organizations? Getting into college? What are you talking about?

I'm talking about the 14th Amendment and the right to equal protection of the laws - something that has nothing to do with Christian organizations or colleges, but has everything to do with civil marriage law.
 
Old 03-02-2015, 11:31 AM
 
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I don't see the right to marriage anywhere in there. Please point out where the constitution decrease marriage is a god given right. The word marriage is no where to be found.
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equal protection of the laws.
Marriage confers concrete legal privileges in regards to taxation, estate protection, spousal privilege in regards to testifying, and myriad other instances.

It can soundly be argued laws preventing people entering into the marriage contract deprive them of those protections above.
 
Old 03-02-2015, 11:35 AM
 
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You do realize that life is not 100% completely fair and equal for anyone, right? I can't get into some prestigious colleges without being endorsed by a senator, for example. Apparently, a gay person only has to say they are gay to get access to anything they want including forcing themselves into Christian organizations. Equal rights shouldn't mean equality in everything.
What the whaaa...???
Does being straight grant you access to anything you want? Does it allow you to force your way into organizations?
 
Old 03-02-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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Dan Patrick: Protect marriage, oppose abortion | www.mystatesman.com

These politicians who claim to act "in the name of God" are appealing to the worst voter elements in Texas. Their "celebration" will be short-lived.
Does the state have a domestic partnerships type law?
 
Old 03-02-2015, 11:43 AM
 
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Does the state have a domestic partnerships type law?
"Marriage in this state shall consist only of the union of one man and one woman. This state or a political subdivision of this state may not create or recognize any legal status identical or similar to marriage."

- Texas Constitution
 
Old 03-02-2015, 11:46 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Does the state have a domestic partnerships type law?
Are you kidding? We're talking about Texas. There are no DPs or civil unions here.
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