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Old 03-05-2015, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
How is the title of this thread possible?

All Democrats are welfare leeches. I read it here on this forum thousands of times so it must be true.
Actually what has happened is the liberals you voted into office created the greatest wealth gap in history. So, to break that down for you. The entitlement crowd of liberals are voting slaves to their, now filthy rich, masters.

Your homework, research the cause and impact of the current wealth gap and increase in entitlement and disability programs. Formulate strategies to reverse these trends in 2016. Assess how these strategies will help lift Americans out of continuing slide into poverty.

Thank you for taking this class. Do your homework and see you tomorrow.
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Old 03-06-2015, 12:16 AM
 
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Actually what has happened is the liberals you voted into office created the greatest wealth gap in history. So, to break that down for you. The entitlement crowd of liberals are voting slaves to their, now filthy rich, masters.
Know whats ironic? You think that its the evil "liberals" that do this. you ignore that it occurred while conservatives were in charge too. And you tell people to do their homework. LOL.

Instead you make the same idiotic mistake. You carry their water, and make their argument. Where does the middle class die? Where they exist. Weird how thats blue states......
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Old 03-06-2015, 12:39 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Are you always that dishonest? Why did you only quote
Why is it a good thing when corporations get more revenue via tax cuts
Because that's the part of your post to which I was responding with the actual truth.That's generally how forum posts are done. You don't copy and paste the whole previous post to point out a flaw in part of it.
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Old 03-06-2015, 03:29 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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And Harry Reid is one of the best Crony Capitalists in DC. They like to talk about being advocates for the poor, but actions speak louder than words.
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Corporate donors to a green energy nonprofit operated by Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid’s (D., Nev.) former staffers and a current campaign operative have received billions of dollars in federal loan guarantees and grant money as a result of Reid’s advocacy.
Yes democrats gave billions of dollars to corporations, while GW Bush gave $1.2 (trillion) dollars in federal subsidies to corporations.
RealClearMarkets - Do Crony Handouts Have a Stranglehold On the GOP?

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Fulcrum Bioenergy began contributing to the Clean Energy Project (CEP) in 2013. One year later, the Nevada Democrat steered tens of millions of dollars in federal grant money to the California biofuel company.
Yes democrats gave millions of dollars to corporations, while Dick Cheney gave oil corporations $14.5 billion dollars.
Big Oil's Influence in Washington . NOW | PBS

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Fulcrum is one of at least nine corporate donors to the Clean Energy Project (CEP) that have secured federal financing for themselves or a client due in part to Reid’s behind-the-scenes advocacy—activity that watchdogs warn could be construed as unethical.
That could be unethical.

While the Bush White House said 935 false statements about Iraq, invaded Iraq for nothing, and then Halliburton CEO Dick Cheney gave Haliburton billions of dollars of no-bid government contracts in Iraq.
(Thats positively unethical.)

Study: Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war - CNN.com

FOCUS | Cheney's Halliburton Made $39.5 Billion on Iraq War


Democrats give away a billion dollars (and its bad.)
Republicans give away a trillion dollars (and its OK.)

I wish I could laugh, but since all those republican handouts get added to our national debt its just not funny.

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Old 03-06-2015, 03:48 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Dems have been the unabashed party of Wall St. and Silicon Valley since the mid 1990's.

Prior to that it was the GOP while the Dems looked out for the middle class.

Now the GOP is more Main St.

Funny how things change.
(Dem) Bill Clinton raised tax rates on Wall Street CEO's and balanced our budget.
The Budget and Deficit Under Clinton

(Rep) GW Bush did $2.5 trillion dollars in tax cuts. Bush gave the richest 1% of Americans 52% of the tax cuts. And Bush gave the 20% of Americans making $36,000-$59,000 a year 10% of the tax cuts.
Bush Tax Cuts After 2002: June 2002 CTJ Analysis

(Dem) Obama tried to raise Wall Street CEO billionaires tax rates because those billionaires have 11% tax rates, but the republicans stopped Obama.
Warren Buffett's Effective Federal Income Tax Rate Was Just 11% - Forbes
Buffett Rule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(Dem) Obama tried to raise min wage and give the middle class tax cuts, but the republicans stopped him.
GOP Senators Reject Tax Cuts for Middle Class - CBS News

While (rep) Mitt Romney tried to give large corporations and the rich $6.6 trillion dollars in tax cuts.
Romney's Economic Plan Includes $6.6 Trillion Tax Cut For The Rich And Corporations | ThinkProgress

And we have (rep) Rand Paul waiting to give corporations and the rich more tax cuts.
Rand Paul's fix for Detroit: lower taxes for the rich, more pollution & lower wages for the poor


What the hell do republicans do for regular Americans?

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Old 03-06-2015, 03:59 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Originally Posted by Tall Traveler View Post
Obama borrowed trillons from the Chinese to give to his rich fat cat buddies on Wall Street that supported him.
Can you provide a source for your above statement, or is it not true?
Answer: Its not true.

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The poor and espcially blacks have fared terribly under Obama's reign. Income inequality has accelrted at unpredented speed during Obama's reign.
Obama tried to raise min wage and give the middle class tax cuts, but the republicans stopped him.
GOP Senators Reject Tax Cuts for Middle Class - CBS News

Obama tried to raise billionaires tax rates, but the republicans stopped him.
Buffett Rule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The above actions would have 100% reversed income equality, but the republicans stopped it.

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Republicans are good for the middle class and the Dems are good at expanding the poor and rich.
How are republicans good for the middle class?
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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We must realize that billionaires are very special people so much better than the rest of us them must be given special treatment including all manner of tax breaks so they can maintain their exclusivity. The rest of us middle, working and poor people are not special enough to get any brakes and to pay ever more to protect the billionaires and their interests all over the world.

Then that has, gets and uses the rest of us to make certain that never ends. Welcome to the New Feudalism.
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Old 03-06-2015, 06:01 AM
 
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Know whats ironic? You think that its the evil "liberals" that do this. you ignore that it occurred while conservatives were in charge too. And you tell people to do their homework. LOL.

Instead you make the same idiotic mistake. You carry their water, and make their argument. Where does the middle class die? Where they exist. Weird how thats blue states......
It happened because Obama went with Bernanke. The guy that had failed the country. Yep, Bush picked him first but the wealth gap does not grow to a record level if Obama picks someone that doesn't concentrate every action of the Fed to seeing that the top percentages succeeded at the expense of everyone else.

It doesn't matter what others did before when speaking about what Obama did.
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Old 03-06-2015, 06:26 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Yes democrats gave billions of dollars to corporations, while GW Bush gave $1.2 (trillion) dollars in federal subsidies to corporations.
RealClearMarkets - Do Crony Handouts Have a Stranglehold On the GOP?
You can't call it corporate welfare when it was payment for contracted goods and services:
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"Most of the payments Open the Books uncovered were contracts between government agencies and private firms. The largest of these are military-procurement deals with such firms as Lockheed Martin ($392 billion), General Dynamics ($170 billion), and United Technologies ($73 billion). At least taxpayers get services in exchange for these tax dollars."
That's like saying paying your mortgage or utility bills is corporate welfare.

The real number for 2000-2012, that's 12 years, is just $21.3 billion. That's only $1.775 billion per year, FAR less than we spend on social welfare programs, AND it includes the end of Clinton's presidency and the first 3 years of Obama's presidency.:
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"$21.3 billion that was doled out in the form of outright income-transfer subsidies to corporate America."

Only $21.3 billion in income-transfer subsidies to corporate America since 2000 | Open the Books

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Old 03-06-2015, 11:24 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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We must realize that billionaires are very special people so much better than the rest of us them must be given special treatment including all manner of tax breaks so they can maintain their exclusivity. The rest of us middle, working and poor people are not special enough to get any brakes and to pay ever more to protect the billionaires and their interests all over the world.

Then that has, gets and uses the rest of us to make certain that never ends. Welcome to the New Feudalism.
Liberal billionaires like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet who support democrats are good people.

Bill Gates wants to raise tax rates on CEO billionaires to lower our deficits.
Bill Gates -- taxing the rich more will help close the budget deficit | Computerworld

Warren Buffet wants to raise taxes on the rich because he's upset his secretary has a higher tax rate than him.
Buffett urges Congress to raise taxes on the rich - CBS News

And Buffet has so much pull in the democrat party they tried to follow his wishes, they even named the law after Buffet. But republicans stopped the law from passing.
Buffett Rule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


But conservative billionaires like the Koch brothers want low CEO tax rates, corporate tax cuts, to abolish every government agency that regulates/fines large corporations, and to abolish all government agencies who's funding can be transferred to corporate America.

What Do the Koch Brothers Want? - Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont

But unfortunately the Koch brothers have more power in politics than Warren Buffet.
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