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Old 03-15-2015, 12:48 PM
 
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I use to think that in most countries political conflict was mostly about the left fighting the right, but now that I have some life experience I have started to notice that the left actually spends almost as much time hating on other portions of the left as it does the right.

Why is it that right-wingers generally are more able to work with other right-wingers while left-wingers are always at each others throats?

 
Old 03-15-2015, 01:15 PM
 
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I use to think that in most countries political conflict was mostly about the left fighting the right, but now that I have some life experience I have started to notice that the left actually spends almost as much time hating on other portions of the left as it does the right.

Why is it that right-wingers generally are more able to work with other right-wingers while left-wingers are always at each others throats?
The actions of congressmen in the last few years is not in alignment with your observations. These great divisions tend to alternate between left and right. The one world diversity socialists of the left have pretty much defeated the more rational blue collar members of the left, The only arguments the left have is over how fast we should head down the road to serfdom.

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Old 03-15-2015, 01:29 PM
 
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I use to think that in most countries political conflict was mostly about the left fighting the right, but now that I have some life experience I have started to notice that the left actually spends almost as much time hating on other portions of the left as it does the right.

Why is it that right-wingers generally are more able to work with other right-wingers while left-wingers are always at each others throats?
Human beings disagree with each other constantly, regardless of their political persuasion or any other classification that they might be segregated into. It always was and always will be.

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Old 03-15-2015, 01:37 PM
 
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Human beings disagree with each other constantly, regardless of their political persuasion or any other classification that they might be segregated into. It was always was and always will be.
Sure, but the left seems to suffer from this more so than the right. I would explain it in more detail but this leftist explains it more better than I can: I Hate Liberals - Democratic Underground

Basically his argument is that many people on the left are so utterly convinced that they are right that they aren't able to get along with others even if they are leftist also. Right-wingers all the while, seem generally more willing to accept some level of disagreement if it means keeping the right more united against other groups such as the left.
 
Old 03-15-2015, 01:40 PM
 
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I use to think that in most countries political conflict was mostly about the left fighting the right, but now that I have some life experience I have started to notice that the left actually spends almost as much time hating on other portions of the left as it does the right.

Why is it that right-wingers generally are more able to work with other right-wingers while left-wingers are always at each others throats?
The left share a plethora of ideas and approaches, whereas the right is run in lockstep, and conformity is required. With such a mindset, there is often little dissent within its own ranks.
 
Old 03-15-2015, 01:40 PM
 
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Sure, but the left seems to suffer from this more so than the right. I would explain it in more detail but this leftist explains it more better than I can: I Hate Liberals - Democratic Underground

Basically his argument is that many people on the left are so utterly convinced that they are right that they aren't able to get along with others even if they are leftist also. Right-wingers all the while, seem generally more willing to accept some level of disagreement if it means keeping the right more united against other groups such as the left.
If that's right, then how do we explain the Tea Party protests?
 
Old 03-15-2015, 02:19 PM
 
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The left's major internal argument is over who gets to take how much money out of other peoples' wallets. This naturally sets the stage for endless internecine squabbling. Look at any of the youtube videos of the Serengeti. The hyenas are always the most contentious.
 
Old 03-15-2015, 02:31 PM
 
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I use to think that in most countries political conflict was mostly about the left fighting the right, but now that I have some life experience I have started to notice that the left actually spends almost as much time hating on other portions of the left as it does the right.

Why is it that right-wingers generally are more able to work with other right-wingers while left-wingers are always at each others throats?
Because they Are so driven by Hatred. I'm sure of it.
 
Old 03-15-2015, 02:32 PM
 
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The left share a plethora of ideas and approaches, whereas the right is run in lockstep, and conformity is required.
Then why is the right-wing generally in favor of free speech and free enterprise while the left wants censorship of speech and state control over the economy?

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If that's right, then how do we explain the Tea Party protests?
I never said that conflict never occurs, but that it doesn't happen as often. It's also worth pointing out that the US is largely special in that it has a 2 party system which pretty much forces the left and right into 2 parties while in other countries that have multi-party systems the left is much more likely to split it's forces into many different camps with new camps forming or breaking all the time. In my own country for example the right has traditionally kept itself within 1-2 parties while the left has existed in countless different movements and parties with old parties dying and new ones taking their place. Conflict between right wing groups has and does happen, but it's nothing of the scale that the left suffers from.
 
Old 03-15-2015, 02:34 PM
 
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I never said that conflict never occurs, but that it doesn't happen as often. It's also worth pointing out that the US is largely special in that it has a 2 party system which pretty much forces the left and right into 2 parties while in other countries that have multi-party systems the left is much more likely to split it's forces into many different camps with new camps forming or breaking all the time. In my own country for example the right has traditionally kept itself within 1-2 parties while the left has existed in countless different movements and parties with old parties dying and new ones taking their place. Conflict between right wing groups has and does happen, but it's nothing of the scale that the left suffers from.
It is a separate topic, but it is my sense we might do well to move to a parliamentary system, which is what you appear to be talking about.
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