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Old 03-22-2015, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Houston
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The Rising Cost of Living Longer: Analysis of Medicare Spending by Age for Beneficiaries in Traditional Medicare | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

There have been many pushing taxing unhealthy foods, enforcing labeling requirements and even a fat tax stating it will lower this nation's healthcare costs. I have no reason to believe people living longer will reduce medical costs and suspect the contrary might be true. Individuals dropping dead of a heart attack at 65 are individuals who cost medicare little or nothing . An extra benefit is they do not collect SS.

I think the above link is quite valuable to reference here.
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Old 03-22-2015, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Old 03-23-2015, 01:18 AM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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Only if you also subsidize supersized fries and a 32oz Coke, otherwise what is the point of just a burger.
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Old 03-23-2015, 02:47 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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I really think that assisted suicide will be nation wide in the future at least I really hope so. I have said this before that once I am unable to walk and lose my bodily functions I want the freedom to check out. This will reduce the cost of Medicare greatly and be less of a burden for the younger generation.

As far as taxing unhealthy food I say no, which way is our country going? the nanny state? the police state? or a combination of both? That kind of behavior tax is tyrannical and against the freedom our country is supposed to stand for. I say give people more freedom to check out at their choosing.
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Old 03-23-2015, 02:50 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I really think that assisted suicide will be nation wide in the future at least I really hope so. I have said this before that once I am unable to walk and lose my bodily functions I want the freedom to check out. This will reduce the cost of Medicare greatly and be less of a burden for the younger generation.

As far as taxing unhealthy food I say no, which way is our country going? the nanny state? the police state? or a combination of both? That kind of behavior tax is tyrannical and against the freedom our country is supposed to stand for. I say give people more freedom to check out at their choosing.
If you're opposed to a nanny state, why do you want assisted suicide? What's keeping you from doing it on your own?
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Old 03-23-2015, 03:02 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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If you're opposed to a nanny state, why do you want assisted suicide? What's keeping you from doing it on your own?
If I have the opportunity I will do it on my own. I prefer the assisted because it is a done deal with no suffering. Plus who knows what the factors would be at that point in my life.

I apologize to the OP I was not trying to hi jack thread on the point they were trying to make, but assisted suicide would have to be a factor in future Medicare spending.
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Old 03-23-2015, 03:05 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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If I have the opportunity I will do it on my own. I prefer the assisted because it is a done deal with no suffering. Plus who knows what the factors would be at that point in my life.

I apologize to the OP I was not trying to hi jack thread on the point they were trying to make, but assisted suicide would have to be a factor in future Medicare spending.
I believe assisted suicide should be an option, I just don't see how someone can oppose the 'nanny state' yet support that very same state funding it.
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Old 03-23-2015, 03:29 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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I believe assisted suicide should be an option, I just don't see how someone can oppose the 'nanny state' yet support that very same state funding it.
OK, you caught me. keep in mind that I have paid into the system and at that age was continuing to pay for Medicare. What is the alternative? to be warehoused in a nursing home for many years and unable to walk? which drives up the cost greatly, go on a hunger strike and suffer? who knows what the factors will be? Since I have paid in the system all of my adult life should I have the freedom to choose? I say yes.

What alternatives would I have being unable to walk? leave the nursing home and roll out in the street and get hit by a car?

Like I said in the beginning by that time in my life assisted suicide will be nation wide no matter if I am for or against. I am going to be for it and check out. Others may choose to be stored in a ware house unable to walk and loss of body functions. To me that is not living to others maybe it is,
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Old 03-23-2015, 04:23 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The Rising Cost of Living Longer: Analysis of Medicare Spending by Age for Beneficiaries in Traditional Medicare | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

There have been many pushing taxing unhealthy foods, enforcing labeling requirements and even a fat tax stating it will lower this nation's healthcare costs. I have no reason to believe people living longer will reduce medical costs and suspect the contrary might be true. Individuals dropping dead of a heart attack at 65 are individuals who cost medicare little or nothing . An extra benefit is they do not collect SS.

I think the above link is quite valuable to reference here.
Responding to your thread title, and your statement above, what makes you think a bacon cheeseburger is "unhealthy?" It contains meat, cheese, bread, tomato, lettuce, onion, pickle, perhaps a small amount of Mayo, and likely Ketchup. It's a complete meal in a bun!

If the meat and bacon are cooked properly, and the beef is lean, this should be a perfectly healthy sandwich. Besides, how many of them does a person eat in a week? One? Maybe two? As a matter of fact, I can't even remember the last time I had one at a "fast food" place; but, we do make hamburgers at home a couple of times a month (without the bacon), and we use a good sized slice of tomato and red onion, and home made pickle on the side. I buy only 80% lean ground chuck for them, and we make them about 1/3 lb. each. They're delicious. And I'm still under 140 lbs (and have been my entire life), and never sick.
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Old 03-23-2015, 04:31 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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OK, you caught me. keep in mind that I have paid into the system and at that age was continuing to pay for Medicare. What is the alternative? to be warehoused in a nursing home for many years and unable to walk? which drives up the cost greatly, go on a hunger strike and suffer? who knows what the factors will be? Since I have paid in the system all of my adult life should I have the freedom to choose? I say yes.

What alternatives would I have being unable to walk? leave the nursing home and roll out in the street and get hit by a car?

Like I said in the beginning by that time in my life assisted suicide will be nation wide no matter if I am for or against. I am going to be for it and check out. Others may choose to be stored in a ware house unable to walk and loss of body functions. To me that is not living to others maybe it is,
You'll get no argument from me over assisted suicide, I always viewed Dr. 'Jack' as a hero, not a criminal.

I was just trying to make the point, and not just with you personally, that many who may claim to oppose the 'nanny state' in theory have no problem accepting its assistance in matters they support just as those who in theory support less government/less spending belie their true beliefs when they blindly support MORE military spending
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