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Old 04-04-2015, 07:51 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Scotus did not say that Hobby Lobby could provide BC for some and not others
No BC for all employees. No cakes for same-sex weddings for all patrons.
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Old 04-04-2015, 07:52 AM
 
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Scotus did not say that Hobby Lobby could provide BC for some and not others, they just said that they did not have to provide it, but they must do so across the board.

Bakers do not have to provide cakes, but if they do they must do so across the board.
The reason they did not say that is because that is not the question they were answering. The question they were answering is whether or not the government can force a business to do something that goes against the owner's religious beliefs.
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Old 04-04-2015, 07:53 AM
 
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The reason they did not say that is because that is not the question they were answering. The question they were answering is whether or not the government can force a business to do something that goes against the owner's religious beliefs.
Exactly, and SCOTUS ruled that the government cannot.
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Old 04-04-2015, 07:54 AM
 
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If bakers decline to provide wedding cakes for same-sex weddings for all who request such, based on the bakers' Constitutional right to exercise their religion, they're not picking and choosing. They're declining all such requests.
Then they are not providing the product (wedding cakes) to everyone, are they? That is discrimination
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Old 04-04-2015, 07:55 AM
 
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No BC for all employees. No cakes for same-sex weddings for all patrons.
What is the difference between a hetero wedding cake ans a same sex wedding cake?

What If I want a hetero wedding cake?
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Old 04-04-2015, 07:56 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

John 3:16.

I think the main word there is "whoever". I know gay folks that believe in him.

Enjoy your salad-bar while you are able!
You really think absolutely NOTHING is required of believers?
Gee..... just how many pages of scripture have you actually read?????????
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Old 04-04-2015, 07:58 AM
 
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Then they are not providing the product (wedding cakes) to everyone, are they?
They are providing wedding cakes for those whose wedding doesn't violate their religion. SCOTUS just recently confirmed that business owners have that First Amendment right.

If you're not happy with that, take a case to SCOTUS.
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Old 04-04-2015, 07:59 AM
 
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Enjoy your salad-bar while you are able!
You really think absolutely NOTHING is required of believers?
Gee..... just how many pages of scripture have you actually read?????????
What exactly did I say that was wrong? Seriously I want to know.
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Old 04-04-2015, 08:10 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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What exactly did I say that was wrong? Seriously I want to know.
ROTFL,what a joke! You think John 3:16 is ALL that Christianity and the bible is about,typical Sunday morning pew warmer,or are you just some gay guy who only knows and uses that one scripture verse!

This has become nothing but a homofascist thread ,so I won't bother wasting anymore of my time,but I will do everything I can to support every person of morals who is against these radical militant homos forcing acceptance of their perversion onto society.

homofascism
Homosexual activists are vehemently promoting homosexuality throughout the media, academia, and politics as spelled out in their manifesto titled After The Ball.

"Sensitivity" classes in schools are required to children as young as kindergarden where they brainwash a child within minutes into believing homosexuality is the same as trying a new food.
This is pure Pavlonian style brainwashing, indoctrination, and ideological subversion. All states that legalize same sex "marriage" require schools to have these classes, and parents who opt their kids out can potential get thrown in jail and pay fines.

The only reason why homosexuals pushed to "serve openly" in the military, because they know the military is one of the largest institutions within the Fed govt. Now they can politicize their way into more influential positions to easily push the agenda further.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=homofascism

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../1147428/posts

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Old 04-04-2015, 08:12 AM
 
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ROTFL,what a joke! You think John 3:16 is ALL that Christianity and the bible is about,typical Sunday morning pew warmer,or are you just some gay guy who only knows and uses that one scripture verse!
We will note, you didn't address my question and I'm sure it would be waste of time to pursue that. If you change your mind, I'll listen.
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